How can I express f*dA in terms of u and v for the given function?

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the expression for f*dA in terms of u and v, with the given function f(x,y,z)=x^2yz and the surface written as a vector function of the two parameters u and v. The solution involves taking partial derivatives and using the fundamental vector product to find the differential of surface area. Practice is recommended for better understanding.
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Homework Statement


Let f(x,y,z)=x^2yz. Express f*dA in terms of u and v.


The Attempt at a Solution


We're given that
x= u+v
y= u-v
z= u^2+v^2.

The main problem I'm having is that I know I need to take partial derivatives in respect to u and v but I'm not sure how. I did an easier problem that required me to find the area element and I had to take the partial of x in respect to u, then the partial of y in respect to u. In that problem the x, y, z were separated but in this case, x y and z are all together so I'm not sure how to separate them and take the partials to find are element. Thanks :smile:
 
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chain rule
 
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so do i just substitute all of those equations into x^2yz and take the derivatives once in respect to u and then once in respect to v?
 
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dA is given by the "fundamental vector product": First write the surface as a vector function of the two parameters:
[tex]\vec{r}= x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k}= (u+v)\vec{i}+ (u-v)\vec{j}+ (u^2+ v^2)\vec{k}[/tex]
Now take the derivatives with respect to each parameter:
[tex]\vec{r}_u= \vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ 2u\vec{k}[/tex]
and
[tex]\vec{r}_v= \vec{i}- \vec{j}+ 2v\vec{k}[/tex]

The "fundamental vector product" is the cross product of those two vectors. Since they both are tangent to the circus (in the direction of the "coordinate axes for coordinates u and v) their cross product is perpendicular to the surface and its length is the "differential of surface area"
If I have done the calculation correctly (something I never guarentee!) then
[tex]dS= 2\sqrt{2u^2+ 2v^2+ 1}dudv[/tex]
and f(u,v)dA is
[tex]2(u+v)^2(u-v)(u^2+ v^2)\sqrt{2u^2+ 2v^2+ 1}dudv[/tex]
 
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hm...interesting, I'll definitely be doing more problems for practice. Thanks
 

FAQ: How can I express f*dA in terms of u and v for the given function?

What is the purpose of a calculus area element?

The purpose of a calculus area element is to measure the infinitesimal, or infinitely small, change in area within a specific region. This allows for the calculation of more precise and accurate values for the area of irregular shapes or curves.

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A regular area calculation uses the formula A = length x width to find the total area of a shape. A calculus area element, on the other hand, uses the concept of limits and infinitesimals to calculate the change in area at a specific point within a shape.

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