How Can I Find a Point on sqrt{x} With a Given Slope to (1,1)?

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In summary, finding a point P on the curve sqrt{x} such that the slope of the line through P and (1, 1) is 1/4 is a task that requires solving for x.
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Find a point P on the curve sqrt{x} such that the slope of the line through P and (1, 1) is 1/4.

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Let point $P$ be:

\(\displaystyle \left(x,\sqrt{x}\right)\)

Now what is the slope of the line through $P$ and $(1,1)$?
 
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MarkFL said:
Let point $P$ be:

\(\displaystyle \left(x,\sqrt{x}\right)\)

Now what is the slope of the line through $P$ and $(1,1)$?

I must find the slope between the two points.
 
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RTCNTC said:
I must find the slope between the two points.

Yes, but what is this slope?

\(\displaystyle m=\frac{\Delta y}{\Delta x}=\frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}=?\)
 
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MarkFL said:
Yes, but what is this slope?

\(\displaystyle m=\frac{\Delta y}{\Delta x}=\frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}=?\)

m = (sqrt{x} - 1)/(x - 1)

Do you mean to let x = 1?

If so, m = (sqrt{1} - 1)/(1 - 1)

m = 0/0 = 0
 
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RTCNTC said:
m = (sqrt{x} - 1)/(x - 1)

Yes, we have:

\(\displaystyle m=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{x-1}\)

Can you simplify this by writing the denominator as the different of squares and dividing out any common factors?

RTCNTC said:
Do you mean to let x = 1?

If so, m = (sqrt{1} - 1)/(1 - 1)

m = 0/0 = 0

No, we don't want to let $x=1$...otherwise we don't have two distinct points. You would need to use a limit in that case, and you would be computing the instantaneous slope, i.e., the derivative which is a concept from differential calculus. :)
 
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MarkFL said:
Yes, we have:

\(\displaystyle m=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{x-1}\)

Can you simplify this by writing the denominator as the different of squares and dividing out any common factors?
No, we don't want to let $x=1$...otherwise we don't have two distinct points. You would need to use a limit in that case, and you would be computing the instantaneous slope, i.e., the derivative which is a concept from differential calculus. :)

Ok. What is the slope?
 
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RTCNTC said:
Ok. What is the slope?

You want to first simplify the slope:

\(\displaystyle m=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{x-1}=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{\left(\sqrt{x}+1\right)\left(\sqrt{x}-1\right)}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}+1}\)

Now, we are told we want the slope to be 1/4, and so this implies:

\(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}+1=4\)

So, what is the required point?
 
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MarkFL said:
You want to first simplify the slope:

\(\displaystyle m=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{x-1}=\frac{\sqrt{x}-1}{\left(\sqrt{x}+1\right)\left(\sqrt{x}-1\right)}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}+1}\)

Now, we are told we want the slope to be 1/4, and so this implies:

\(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}+1=4\)

So, what is the required point?

We equate the slope to 1/4 and solve for x.
 
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1/4 = 1/(\(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\) + 1)

4 = \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\) + 1

4 - 1 = \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\)

3 = \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\)

\(\displaystyle {3}^{2}\) = \(\displaystyle ({\sqrt{x}})^{2}\)

9 = x

The required point is (9, 3).
 
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I would suggest looking at the sticky threads in our "Math Formulas (MathJax)" forum, so you can avoid using an awkward mix of text and $\LaTeX$ in your workings. :D
 
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MarkFL said:
I would suggest looking at the sticky threads in our "Math Formulas (MathJax)" forum, so you can avoid using an awkward mix of text and $\LaTeX$ in your workings. :D

Can you provide the link?
 
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RTCNTC said:
Can you provide the link?

http://mathhelpboards.com/math-formulas-mathjax-62/
 
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Everytime I try uploading a picture, it tells me the image is too big. What can I do? I would rather upload pictures than deal with LaTex.
 
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FAQ: How Can I Find a Point on sqrt{x} With a Given Slope to (1,1)?

What is the equation for the given curve?

The equation for the given curve is y = √x.

What is the slope of the line through (1, 1) and any point P on the curve?

The slope of the line through (1, 1) and any point P on the curve is given by the formula: m = (y2 - y1) / (x2 - x1), where (x1, y1) = (1, 1) and (x2, y2) = (x, √x). Simplifying this equation yields m = (√x - 1) / (x - 1).

How do I find a point P on the curve such that the slope of the line through P and (1, 1) is 1/4?

To find a point P on the curve with a slope of 1/4, we can set the slope equation equal to 1/4 and solve for x. This will give us the x-coordinate of P. Once we have the x-coordinate, we can plug it into the equation for the curve (y = √x) to find the y-coordinate of P.

What is the significance of finding a point P on the curve with a slope of 1/4?

Finding a point P on the curve with a slope of 1/4 means that the line through (1, 1) and P has a slope of 1/4. This can be useful in various mathematical applications, such as finding the tangent line to a curve at a specific point or determining the rate of change of a function.

Are there multiple points on the curve with a slope of 1/4 through (1, 1)?

Yes, there are multiple points on the curve with a slope of 1/4 through (1, 1). Since the curve is continuous, there are an infinite number of points that can be chosen with a slope of 1/4 through (1, 1). To find these points, we can use the method described in the answer to the third question.

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