How can \sqrt x and \log_e x be compared using calculus?

In summary, the inequality ##\log_e x < \sqrt x## was derived using calculus. By setting ##f(x)=\sqrt x - \log_e x## and proving that it is always greater than zero, it was shown that ##\log_e x < \sqrt x## is always satisfied. This is because for the least value of ##\sqrt x##, ##\log_e x < \sqrt x## and for values greater than 4, ##\frac{1}{x} < \frac{1}{2\sqrt x}##. Therefore, there is no point of intersection for the inequality.
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AdityaDev
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I was going through some important points give in my textbook and I saw this:
##\log_e x < \sqrt x##
How did they get this?
I know calculus so you can show this using differentiation, etc.
One possible way is that they took
##f(x)=\sqrt x-\log_e x##
And tried to prove it is always greater than zero.
 
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You can write [itex] \sqrt x [/itex] as [itex] e^{\ln \sqrt x}=e^{\frac 1 2 \ln x} [/itex]. Now we have $$\lim_{x\to 0} \ln x=-\infty $$ and $$ \lim_{y\to -\infty} e^y=0 $$. So for the least value of [itex] \sqrt x [/itex], [itex] \ln x < \sqrt x [/itex] and because [itex] \sqrt x [/itex] is strictly increasing and [itex] \frac 1 x < \frac{1}{2\sqrt x} [/itex] for [itex] x>4 [/itex], the inequality is always satisfied.

EDIT: Looks like rewriting [itex] \sqrt{x} [/itex] wasn't necessary, but I don't change it because it may give you a feeling for the inequality.
 
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Shyan said:
You can write [itex] \sqrt x [/itex] as [itex] e^{\ln \sqrt x}=e^{\frac 1 2 \ln x} [/itex]. Now we have $$\lim_{x\to 0} \ln x=-\infty $$ and $$ \lim_{y\to -\infty} e^y=0 $$. So for the least value of [itex] \sqrt x [/itex], [itex] \ln x < \sqrt x [/itex] and because [itex] \sqrt x [/itex] is strictly increasing and [itex] \frac 1 x < \frac{1}{2\sqrt x} [/itex] for [itex] x>4 [/itex], the inequality is always satisfied.

EDIT: Looks like rewriting [itex] \sqrt{x} [/itex] wasn't necessary, but I don't change it because it may give you a feeling for the inequality.
For x<4 why can't there be a point of intersection? You haven't specified what happens for x<4
I understood everything else. Thanks for the reply.
 
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AdityaDev said:
For x<4 why can't there be a point of intersection? You haven't specified what happens for x<4
I understood everything else. Thanks for the reply.
When [itex] x \to 0 [/itex], we have [itex] \sqrt x=0 [/itex] and [itex] \ln x \to -\infty [/itex]. In the interval [itex] (0,4] [/itex], [itex] \ln x [/itex] increases faster than [itex] \sqrt x [/itex], but that slight excess can't make up for the huge gap in such a small interval.
 
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Check the derivatives - if one derivative is smaller than another and the initial values are different then you have shown that one is always smaller than the other provided this requirement is met.
 

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