How can the Hamilton-Jacobi equation be derived and solved?

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The discussion focuses on deriving and solving the Hamilton-Jacobi equation for a given Hamiltonian. The Hamiltonian is expressed as H = (1/2)*(p1*q2 + 2*p1*p2 + q1^2), leading to the formulation of the Hamilton-Jacobi equation. The proposed solution involves using a generator S that incorporates time and spatial variables, with attempts to simplify the equations resulting in specific forms for S. The final answers provided indicate the relationship between the generator S, energy E, and constants in the context of the Hamilton-Jacobi framework. The conversation reflects a desire for clarity on the derivation process and solutions presented by the professor.
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Well, I had a couple problems on my final I was hoping to go over- hope nobody minds. Here's the third.

Homework Statement


The Hamiltonian of the System is H = (1/2)*(p1*q2 + 2*p1*p2 + q1^2)
A.) Derive the Hamilton-Jacobi Equation
B.) Find the Solution.


Homework Equations


H = (q1, q1, . . ., qk , dS/dq1, dS/dq2, . . ., dS/dqk , t ) + dS/dt = 0 where S is the generator.


The Attempt at a Solution


Putting the Hamiltonian in proper formulation, it becomes.

(1/2)*(dS/dq1*q2 + 2*dS/dq1*dS/dq2 + q1^2)

So (1/2)*(dS/dq1*q2 + 2*dS/dq1*dS/dq2 + q1^2) + dS/dt = 0

B.

Let's try S = -q1^2 * t - q2^2 / 4

then (q2 / 2)*(-2*q1*t) + (-q2 / 2)*(-2*q1*t) + q1^2 + (-q1^2) = 0

Therefore S = -q1^2 * t - q2^2 / 4 + A is the generator, where A is a constant.

Let S = S2(q2) + S1(q1,t) + A as well.

Then (q2 / 2)*(dS1/dq1) + (dS1/dq1)*(dS2/dq2) + q1^2 + (dS1/dt) = 0

Dividing all terms by (dS1/dq1) creates:

(q2 / 2) + (dS2/dq2) + q1^2*(dS1/dq1)^-1 + (dS1/dt)*(dS1/dq1)^-1 = 0

(-q2 / 2) + (-dS2/dq2) = q1^2*(dS1/dq1)^-1 + (dS1/dt)*(dS1/dq1)^-1

Which can only be true in general if both sides are equal to a constant we'll call C.

(-q2 / 2) + (-dS2/dq2) = C implies dS2/dq2 = -(q2/2 + C). But from earlier we know that S2 = -q2^2 / 4.

So -q2 / 2 = -(q2 / 2 + C) and C = 0, q2 = q2

A similar argument with q1^2*(dS1/dq1)^-1 + (dS1/dt)*(dS1/dq1)^-1 = C creates:

q1^2*(dS1/dq1)^-1 + q1' = C implies (q1^2)/(C - q1') = dS1/dq1.

But from earlier we know S1 = -q1^2 * t so. . .

(q1^2)/(C - q1') = -2*q1*t, which is nasty- and I doubt it's separable.
 
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Well, I just want to know how the professor got these answers- don't think I need to be lead by the hand.

A.) (1/2)*( (dS0 / dq1)*q2 + 2*(dS0 / dq1)*(dS0 / dq2) + q1^2) = E

Where S(q,t) = -E*t + S0(q)

B.) S(q,t) = -E*t + (1/2a)*(2*E*q1 - q1^3 / 3) + (1/2)*(2*a*q2 - q2^2 / 2)

Where E is energy and a is an arbitrary constant.
 

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