How can we define the relations?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the definition of a relation in the language $\{+, \cdot , \frac{d}{dx} , 0, 1\}$ using only the operations of addition, multiplication, and derivation. The relation is defined as $e^x-1 \mid e^{kx}-1$ and is equivalent to the existence of two functions $y_1$ and $y_2$ in the ring $R=\mathbb{C}[e^{\lambda x} \mid \lambda \in \mathbb{C}]$. The conversation also explores how to define the relations $y_1(0)=1$ and $y_2(0)=1$ in the given language
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Hey! :eek:

Consider the ring $R=\mathbb{C}[e^{\lambda x} \mid \lambda \in \mathbb{C}]$.

I want to define the relation $e^x-1 \mid e^{kx}-1$ (where $k \in \mathbb{Z}$) in the language $\{+, \cdot , \frac{d}{dx} , 0, 1\}$, so we can use only these operations, the addition, the multiplication and the derivation, and all the terms come from these operations and from $0$ and $1$.

Since in the language we don't have the symbol $e^x$, I thought that this is the solution of the differential equation $y_1'=y_1$ when we apply the condition $y_1(0)=1$.

And we get $e^{kx}$ from the differential equation $y_2'=ky_2 , \ y_2(0)=1$.

So we have $$e^x-1 \mid e^{kx}-1 \Leftrightarrow \exists y_1 , y_2 \in R : y_1'=y_1 \land y_1(0)=1 \land y_2'=ky_2 \land y_2(0)=1 \land y_1-1 \mid y_2 -1$$

The relation $y_1-1 \mid y_2 -1$ can be defined in the language as follows: $$\exists h \in R : (y_1-1 )h=y_2 -1$$ right? But how can we define in the language the relations $$y_1(0)=1 \text{ and } y_2(0)=1$$ ? (Wondering)

I thought to use something like $y_1(0)=1 \Leftrightarrow \exists F: xF=y-1$, but I am not sure...
 
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Can you help me?Yes, you can define the relations $y_1(0) = 1$ and $y_2(0) = 1$ in the language $\{+, \cdot , \frac{d}{dx} , 0, 1\}$ as follows:$y_1(0)=1 \Leftrightarrow \exists F : xF + F = y_1-1$$y_2(0)=1 \Leftrightarrow \exists G : xG + G = y_2-1$
 

FAQ: How can we define the relations?

What is the definition of relations in science?

Relations in science refer to the connections or interactions between different elements or variables in a system. These elements can include objects, organisms, chemicals, or any other entities that are being studied.

How can we determine the strength of a relation in a scientific study?

The strength of a relation can be determined by analyzing the data collected in a study. This can be done by calculating correlation coefficients or conducting statistical tests to determine the level of significance between variables.

What is the difference between a direct and indirect relation in science?

A direct relation exists when a change in one variable directly causes a change in another variable. An indirect relation exists when there is an intermediate variable that affects the relationship between two variables.

How do scientists establish cause and effect relationships?

In order to establish a cause and effect relationship, scientists conduct experiments in which they manipulate one variable while keeping all other variables constant. This allows them to determine if the manipulated variable is directly causing changes in the other variables.

Can a single relation be defined in multiple ways in science?

Yes, a single relation can be defined in multiple ways in science. This can depend on the specific context of the study or the perspective of the researcher. It is important to clearly define and describe the relation in order to avoid confusion and misinterpretation of results.

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