How Can We Find the RPM of a CD Through Audio Analysis?

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In summary, the conversation is discussing the acceleration and breaking of a CD in a video, with one comment mentioning the peak frequency and revolutions per minute. There is a flaw in assuming one revolution per cycle in the sound wave and the discussion shifts to the mechanical noise caused by the rotating device. There is also a discussion on how disalignments and imperfections in the rotating mass can affect the frequency and sound produced.
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In this video, a CD accelerates until it breaks:

Here is one comment:

Plotted a small segment of audio just before pop in Audacity http://i.imgur.com/R4nXf87.png

Peak at 456Hz, multiplying by 60 gives 27360RPM

The flaw that he made is that he assumed that there is one CD revolution per cycle in the sound wave, right?
 
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One revolution is one cycle in the frequency, so it is probably correct RPM

A 20x CD player revs about 12000 RPM as normal RPM at 1x, when the laser reads the inner tracks, revs about 640 RPM
 
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Why is one revolution one cycle in the sound frequency?
 
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Plotted a small segment of audio just before pop in Audacity

I can't find the comment [on YouTube] that this comes from, but the audio must refer to the mechanical noise made by the device that's rotating it, not to the sound encoded on the CD. I'd expect that sound to have a strong component corresponding to the rotational speed, from vibration caused by a slightly non-uniform mass distribution.
 
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jtbell said:
I can't find the comment [on YouTube] that this comes from, but the audio must refer to the mechanical noise made by the device that's rotating it, not to the sound encoded on the CD.

It was actually a comment on reddit. Yes, the audio he was referring to was the audio from the video (which is captured using the camera and is due to the mechanical noise by the device that's rotating it).

jtbell said:
I'd expect that sound to have a strong component corresponding to the rotational speed, from vibration caused by a slightly non-uniform mass distribution.

I'm not sure what you mean by something having a strong component.

What exactly determines the frequency of sound? If I have a mass on a spring that oscillates from equilibrium from one maximum to the other and back once every second, will the frequency of the sound be 1 Hz?
 
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InvalidID said:
Why is one revolution one cycle in the sound frequency?
Generally speaking, one revolution is one cycle in the frequency - generally because disalignments in the rotating mass will force the mechanism to viberate. However, there can be gear mechanisms, other mechanical things that might have viberations, gear noise, etc which generates other frequencies. Multi cylinder engines might generate frequencies higher than what the revolutions is as the pistons combined fires several times pr. revolution.

Vidar
 
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Low-Q said:
disalignments in the rotating mass will force the mechanism to viberate.

What kind of disalignments are we speaking about here?
 
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InvalidID said:
What exactly determines the frequency of sound? If I have a mass on a spring that oscillates from equilibrium from one maximum to the other and back once every second, will the frequency of the sound be 1 Hz?
1Hz will be in the frequency spectrum, and probably 2Hz and some higher frequencies are there as well.

What kind of disalignments are we speaking about here?
The center of the CD is not exactly the center of the rotation, and the CD itself is not a perfect disk as well.
 
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InvalidID said:
What kind of disalignments are we speaking about here?
Just small disalignments. Even a flywheel which seams to be perfectly round, perfectly centered on the axis, will make a audioable viberation when the RPM gets high enough. And this small inaccuracies will force the rotating mass to wobble a tiny bit, and make a sound with a frequency (keynote) that is exactly the same as the RPM/sec.

Vidar
 

FAQ: How Can We Find the RPM of a CD Through Audio Analysis?

How does audio analysis help in finding the RPM of a CD?

Audio analysis involves studying the frequency and amplitude of sound waves. In the case of a CD, the audio analysis can help identify the frequency of the rotations of the CD, which in turn can be used to calculate the RPM (revolutions per minute).

Can any audio analysis software be used to find the RPM of a CD?

Yes, there are various audio analysis software available that can be used to find the RPM of a CD. However, it is important to use a software that has a high sampling rate and accuracy to get reliable results.

Is it possible to find the RPM of a CD without specialized equipment?

Yes, it is possible to find the RPM of a CD without specialized equipment. A smartphone or computer with audio recording capabilities and an audio analysis software can be used for this purpose.

Can the RPM of a CD be affected by external factors?

Yes, the RPM of a CD can be affected by external factors such as dust, scratches, and temperature. These factors can cause fluctuations in the frequency of the CD's rotations, which can impact the accuracy of the RPM calculation.

Is the RPM of a CD constant throughout its lifespan?

No, the RPM of a CD is not constant throughout its lifespan. As the CD gets older and experiences wear and tear, the RPM may decrease due to factors such as warping or scratches on the surface.

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