How Can You Prove a Quadratic with No Real Roots Satisfies the Inequality?

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In summary, a quadratic equation with no real roots is an equation in the form of ax^2 + bx + c = 0, where a, b, and c are real numbers and a is not equal to 0. The equation does not intersect the x-axis, indicating that there are no real solutions. The discriminant, b^2 - 4ac, is used to determine if a quadratic equation has no real roots. If the discriminant is less than 0, it means that the equation has no real solutions. However, it can have complex solutions involving imaginary numbers. The significance of a quadratic equation with no real roots is that it represents a situation that is not possible in the real world. It can be solved
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Given that the quadratic equation $(b+c)x^2+(a+c)x+a+b=0$ has no real roots. Prove that

$3a(a+b+c) \ge 4ac-b^2$

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Congratulations to castor28 for his correct answer, which you can find below:
We must prove that, if
$$
(a+c)^2 - 4(b+c)(a+b) < 0
$$
then
$$
4ac-b^2 -3a(a+b+c) \le 0
$$
We note first that, if $b=0$, the first relation reduces to:
$$ a^2-2ac+c^2 = (a-c)^2 < 0$$
which is impossible; therefore $b\ne0$. Writing $a = bx$, $c=by$ and dividing by $b^2$, we obtain the inequalities:
\begin{align*}
f(x,y)&=x^2 - 2xy - 4x + y^2 - 4y - 4 < 0\\
g(x,y) &= x*y - 3*x - 3*x^2 - 1\le0
\end{align*}
and we must prove that $f(x,y)<0$ implies $g(x,y)\le0$. To that effect, we try to find a positive (or negative) definite linear combination of $f$ and $g$.

Expanding $f + kg$, we find:
$$
f(x,y) + kg(x,y) = (- 3k + 1)x^2 + (k - 2)xy + y^2 + (- 3k - 4)x - 4y - (k + 4)
$$
Looking at the second degree terms, we see that a necessary condition for the expression to be a square is:
$$
(k-2)^2 -4(1-3k) = k^2 + 8k = 0
$$
giving $k=0$ or $k=-8$. $k=0$ simply gives $f(x,y)$, which is not a square. On the other hand, with $k=-8$, we find:
\begin{align*}
f(x,y) - 8g(x,y) &= 25x^2 - 10xy + 20x + y^2 - 4y + 4\\
&= (5x - y + 2)^2\\
&\ge0
\end{align*}
This can be written as $8g(x,y) = f(x,y)-(5x - y + 2)^2$, and shows that $f(x,y)<0$ indeed implies $g(x,y)<0$; this is slightly stronger that what is required, since the inequality is strict.

There is a geometric interpretation of this: in the graph below, the first relation corresponds to the interior of the green parabola, and the second relation corresponds to the exterior of the red hyperbola. The statement expresses the fact that the former is included in the latter.

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Alternate solution of other:
Adding $ax^2+bx+c$ into $(b+c)x^2+(a+c)x+a+b=0$, we get

$(a+b+c)(x^2+x+1)=ax^2+bx+c$

Let $f(x)=(a+b+c)(x^2+x+1)$ and $g(x)=ax^2+bx+c$ and thus $f(x)=g(x)$. Since both $f$ and $g$ are quadratic functions that will never intersect, we know we either have $f(x)>g(x)$ or $f(x)<g(x)$ for all $x$.

WLOG, assume that $a+b+c>0$. We then have $f(1)=3(a+b+c),\,g(1)=a+b+c$, which implies $f(x)>g(x)$ for all $x$. It follows that the minimum of $f$ is greater than the minimum of $g$ where $f_{\text{minimum}}=\dfrac{3}{4}(a+b+c)$.

If $a$ is positive, then $g_{\text{minimum}}=\dfrac{4ac-b^2}{4a}$ and so $\dfrac{3}{4}(a+b+c)>\dfrac{4ac-b^2}{4a}$, i.e. $3a(a+b+c)>4ac-b^2$.

If $a$ is negative, then $f_{\text{maximum}}\ge f(1)$ and we get $\dfrac{4ac-b^2}{4a}\ge a+b+c\ge \dfrac{3}{4}(a+b+c)$, i.e. $3a(a+b+c)>4ac-b^2$.

And the proof is then followed.
 

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FAQ: How Can You Prove a Quadratic with No Real Roots Satisfies the Inequality?

What is a quadratic equation with no real roots?

A quadratic equation with no real roots is an equation in the form of ax^2 + bx + c = 0, where a, b, and c are real numbers and a is not equal to 0. This means that when the equation is graphed, it does not intersect the x-axis, indicating that there are no real solutions.

How do you know if a quadratic equation has no real roots?

A quadratic equation has no real roots if the discriminant, b^2 - 4ac, is less than 0. The discriminant is part of the quadratic formula and helps determine the nature of the solutions to the equation. If the discriminant is less than 0, it means that the equation has no real solutions.

Can a quadratic equation with no real roots have complex solutions?

Yes, a quadratic equation with no real roots can have complex solutions. Complex solutions involve imaginary numbers, which are numbers that cannot be expressed as real numbers. These solutions are often represented as a + bi, where a and b are real numbers and i is the imaginary unit.

What is the significance of a quadratic equation with no real roots?

A quadratic equation with no real roots has no real solutions, meaning that there are no values of x that make the equation true. This can indicate that the graph of the equation does not intersect the x-axis, or that the equation represents a situation that is not possible in the real world.

How can a quadratic equation with no real roots be solved?

A quadratic equation with no real roots cannot be solved using real numbers. However, it can be solved using complex numbers. The solutions can be found using the quadratic formula, which involves taking the square root of a negative number. Alternatively, the equation can be solved using graphical methods or by factoring out complex solutions.

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