How Can You Prove Standard Limits Without Using L'Hopital's Rule?

In summary, if you can find a sequence above and another sequence below your sequence, you can "squeeze" you sequence.
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I have a few questions for my homework assignments for solving limits, but in order to do those questions I have to use a few standard limits that we haven't been taught, which means I'll have to prove them. I know these can be done using L'Hopital's rule, but we haven't covered that yet so I was wondering whether there's some other way to prove these limits:

limit x -> 0 log (1 + x)/x = 1

and

limit x -> infinity log (1+x)/x = 0

Thanks in advance!
 
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What about using a series expansion , is it allowed ?
 
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TheAvenger said:
I have a few questions for my homework assignments for solving limits, but in order to do those questions I have to use a few standard limits that we haven't been taught, which means I'll have to prove them. I know these can be done using L'Hopital's rule, but we haven't covered that yet so I was wondering whether there's some other way to prove these limits:

limit x -> 0 log (1 + x)/x = 1

and

limit x -> infinity log (1+x)/x = 0

Thanks in advance!

Hi Avenger! :)

Sure.
If you can find a sequence above and another sequence below your sequence, you can "squeeze" you sequence.
For your first limit, we have:

$\qquad x - \dfrac {x^2} 2 \le \log(1+x) \le x \qquad$

If x>0 we get:

$\qquad\dfrac{x - \dfrac {x^2} 2}{x} \le \dfrac{\log(1+x)}{x} \le \dfrac{x}{x} \qquad$

$\qquad1 - \dfrac {x} {2} \le \dfrac{\log(1+x)}{x} \le 1 \qquad$

If x approaches zero from above these expressions will approach 1, so

$\qquad\displaystyle\lim_{x \downarrow 0} \dfrac{\log(1+x)}{x} = 1$

Similarly you can prove that

$\qquad\displaystyle\lim_{x \uparrow 0} \dfrac{\log(1+x)}{x} = 1$

Therefore

$\qquad\displaystyle\lim_{x \to 0} \dfrac{\log(1+x)}{x} = 1$

Can you think of a similar way to do the second limit?
 
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Ah of course, the sqeeze rule! I should have thought of that! I find it really difficult to come up with two sequences required to use the rule, but I'll try doing the second part myself before asking for assistance.

Thank you for the help!
 
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Let $\displaystyle \ell = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\log(x+1)}{x}$ then $\displaystyle e^\ell = \lim_{x \to 0} (1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}}$. Let $x \mapsto \frac{1}{x}$ then $\displaystyle e^\ell = \lim_{x \to \infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{x}\right)^x = e.$ Thus $\displaystyle \ell = \log(e) = 1$.
 
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I've tried thinking of two sequences to use to prove the second question, but I just can't come up with something that's always greater than log(1+x) which converges to 0. It should be simple enough but I'm hitting a brick wall...
 
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TheAvenger said:
I've tried thinking of two sequences to use to prove the second question, but I just can't come up with something that's always greater than log(1+x) which converges to 0. It should be simple enough but I'm hitting a brick wall...

How about $\sqrt x$?

It does not converge to 0, but it is not supposed to.
Neither does $\log(1+x)$.
It is only supposed to increase slower than $x$, but faster than $\log(1+x)$.
 
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TheAvenger said:
but we haven't covered that yet so I was wondering whether there's some other way to prove these

Perhaps, the following will be useful for you in the future: $$\lim_{x\to 0}\frac{\log (1+x)}{x}=\lim_{x\to 0}\frac{x+o(x)}{x}=\lim_{x\to 0}\left(1+\frac{o(x)}{x}\right)=1+0=1$$
 

FAQ: How Can You Prove Standard Limits Without Using L'Hopital's Rule?

What are standard limits?

Standard limits refer to the values that a function approaches as its input approaches a certain value. These values are often used in calculus to determine the behavior of a function at a specific point or as the input approaches infinity or negative infinity.

Why are proofs of standard limits important?

Proofs of standard limits are important because they provide a mathematical foundation for understanding the behavior of functions. They help us determine the exact value that a function approaches at a certain point, and they also provide a way to prove the existence of a limit.

What are the different types of standard limits?

There are several types of standard limits, including the limit as x approaches a constant, the limit as x approaches infinity, the limit as x approaches negative infinity, and the limit as x approaches a point from the left or right. Each of these types of limits has its own specific proof and properties.

How are standard limits used in real-world applications?

Standard limits are used in many real-world applications, particularly in fields such as physics, engineering, and economics. For example, they can be used to model the behavior of a moving object or to predict the growth of a population. They are also used in calculus to solve complex problems and equations.

What are some common techniques for proving standard limits?

Some common techniques for proving standard limits include using the definition of a limit, using algebraic manipulation, using the Squeeze Theorem, and using the properties of limits. These techniques involve manipulating the given function to find its limit or using other known limits to determine the desired limit.

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