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The Indonesian word is "dua."Pythagorean said:
This is very interesting. The meme plays a part here? As well as some anatomical and environmental differences.Pythagorean said:
I think as an analogy to gene, phoneme evolution combined with etymology (evolution of meaning) would be the most fundamental unit of linguistically transmissible ideas. I don't know if that's how the word meme is actually used though. Even Dawkins seemed to be talking about a higher level concept.pinball1970 said:This is very interesting. The meme plays a part here? As well as some anatomical and environmental differences.
I believe in the case of Indonesian it's a coincidence, as Indonesian is a descendent of the Polynesian family which is on the Oceanic branch of Austronesian languages.Hornbein said:The Indonesian word is "dua."
I live in Indonesia, speak Indonesian, and can tell you it is a polyglot language with many borrowed words from Arabic, Chinese, English, and Dutch. But with a very old word like two I suppose it is indeed a coincidence.Pythagorean said:I believe in the case of Indonesian it's a coincidence, as Indonesian is a descendent of the Polynesian family which is on the Oceanic branch of Austronesian languages.
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The links at the top of the page (e.g. Home, About, Maps etc) at StarkeyComics don't work... they go to a page that says "Error establishing a database connection". Or is it just me?Pythagorean said:
Yeah, most modern languages are full of borrowed words and we have developed lots of modern concepts and technologies that weren't ever encoded in the ancient languages.Hornbein said:I live in Indonesia, speak Indonesian, and can tell you it is a polyglot language with many borrowed words from Arabic, Chinese, English, and Dutch. But with a very old word like two I suppose it is indeed a coincidence.
Proto Indo European is not "attested" anywhere (not written down) it's reconstructed from a model that assumes cultural descendants based on their similarities (whenever you see the * on a word, that's essentially what it means - that the word is reconstructed through laws like Grimm's law). So Sanskrit could be the oldest language attested while still not being the ancestral language. I don't know the details of how the Aryan-Iranian branch might have formed from the proposed ancestral culture, but I do see questions and challenges come up a lot around Sanskrit so I'm curious.Hall said:@Pythagorean It would be better if in centre they put Sanskrit "Dvi". I guess one of the earliest use of number two is in Sanskrit Vedas when Aryans gave the concept of "Dvij" (twice born).
The Indo European word for "two" is believed to have originated from the Proto-Indo-European root word "dwo", which meant "two" or "double". This root word has also been linked to other Indo European words for "two", such as the Latin word "duo" and the Greek word "duo".
There are numerous variations of the Indo European word for "two" that have evolved over time and are used in different languages. Some examples include the Sanskrit word "dva", the Old English word "twā", and the Lithuanian word "dvi".
Yes, there are some common themes and patterns among Indo European words for "two". Many of these words share a similar root word, such as "dwo", and also often have similar sounds and structures. For example, many Indo European words for "two" contain the letter "d" or "t" and end in a vowel sound.
The meaning of the Indo European word for "two" has remained relatively consistent over time, with the main variations being in spelling and pronunciation. However, some languages have developed additional meanings for the word, such as the Old English word "twā" also meaning "both" or "twice".
Yes, there are some languages that do not have an Indo European word for "two". These include languages from other language families, such as Chinese, Arabic, and Swahili. However, many of these languages have adopted Indo European words for "two" through contact with other cultures and languages.