How do I isolate y in terms of x?

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In summary: So, -(3-y)^2 = 9-x(3-y)^2 = x-9sqrt((3-y)^2) = sqrt(x-9)3-y = sqrt(x-9)-y = -3+sqrt(x-9)y = 3-sqrt(x-9)In summary, the conversation discusses the issue of isolating y in the equation x=6y-y^2. The person initially considers using the quadratic formula, but realizes that it will still result in an x term. They are unsure of what to do and mention their struggle with what should be a simple problem. Another person provides guidance and suggests using the quadratic formula, but rewriting it in the proper form. The conversation ends
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I feel like I should know this already, but I need to isolate y in the equation:
\(\displaystyle x= 6y-y^2\)
I was thinking of using the quadratic formula, but that would keep the equation in terms of x.

No matter how I seem to slice it, I can't figure out what to do... Which is kinda sad that I'm doing good on the larger problems, but struggle with what seems like should be simple.

Thanks for any guidance.
 
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Bmanmcfly said:
I feel like I should know this already, but I need to isolate y in the equation:
\(\displaystyle x= 6y-y^2\)
I was thinking of using the quadratic formula, but that would keep the equation in terms of x.

No matter how I seem to slice it, I can't figure out what to do... Which is kinda sad that I'm doing good on the larger problems, but struggle with what seems like should be simple.

Thanks for any guidance.

Welcome to MHB, Bmanmcfly! :)

You are right to use the quadratic formula.
To do so, you need to rewrite it to the proper form.
And yes, in the result you will still have an x.
That is okay, you should treat x in this case just like a regular number.
 
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Bmanmcfly said:
I feel like I should know this already, but I need to isolate y in the equation:
\(\displaystyle x= 6y-y^2\)
I was thinking of using the quadratic formula, but that would keep the equation in terms of x.

No matter how I seem to slice it, I can't figure out what to do... Which is kinda sad that I'm doing good on the larger problems, but struggle with what seems like should be simple.

Thanks for any guidance.

You have to solve the second order equation $\displaystyle y^{2} - 6\ y + x=0$ where y is the unknown. Note that the (1) in general has two solutions that may be also complex...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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Is this correct?? I used quadratic formula, and it gave me:

Y=3+/-sqrt(36-4x)

Or should I try this by "completing the square"?

Edit: This gave me y= 3+/-sqrt(9-x),

So, it seems either way I'm doing something right and/or something wrong
 
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Bmanmcfly said:
Is this correct?? I used quadratic formula, and it gave me:

Y=3+/-sqrt(36-4x)

Or should I try this by "completing the square"?

Either way works.
Your result is almost correct.
But it seems you made a mistake in the process.

You should have:
$$y=\frac{-(-6) \pm \sqrt{(-6)^2 - 4 \cdot 1 \cdot x}}{2 \cdot 1}$$
 
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[solved]Re: Isolate y in terms of x

I like Serena said:
Either way works.
Your result is almost correct.
But it seems you made a mistake in the process.

You should have:
$$y=\frac{-(-6) \pm \sqrt{(-6)^2 - 4 \cdot 1 \cdot x}}{2 \cdot 1}$$

Thanks, ya, you're right. I feel kinda dumb to be having this as an issue.
 
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The method of completing the square fits amazingly well here:

$$-y^2 +6y = x \implies -y^2 +6y -9 = x-9 \implies (3-y)^2 = x-9,$$

and from that we have that $y = 3 \pm \sqrt{x-9}$.
 
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Fantini said:
The method of completing the square fits amazingly well here:

$$-y^2 +6y = x \implies -y^2 +6y -9 = x-9 \implies (3-y)^2 = x-9,$$

and from that we have that $y = 3 \pm \sqrt{x-9}$.

One small quibble...you want:

\(\displaystyle (3-y)^2=9-x\)
 
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I didn't understand. :confused:
 
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\(\displaystyle -y^2+6y-9=-(3-y)^2\)
 

FAQ: How do I isolate y in terms of x?

1. What does it mean to "isolate y in terms of x"?

Isolating y in terms of x means rearranging an equation to solve for y in terms of x. This allows us to express y as a function of x, with no other variables present.

Why do we need to isolate y in terms of x?

Isolating y in terms of x is useful in solving equations and understanding the relationship between two variables. It allows us to easily substitute different values for x and find the corresponding value of y.

How do we isolate y in terms of x?

To isolate y in terms of x, we need to perform algebraic operations to move all terms containing y to one side of the equation and all terms without y to the other side. This will leave y on its own on one side of the equation.

Can you give an example of isolating y in terms of x?

Sure, let's take the equation 2x + 3y = 12. To isolate y, we can subtract 2x from both sides, giving us 3y = 12 - 2x. Then, we can divide both sides by 3 to get y = (12 - 2x)/3. This is y isolated in terms of x.

Is isolating y in terms of x the same as solving for y?

Yes, isolating y in terms of x is essentially solving for y. By rearranging the equation to have y on one side and all other terms on the other side, we have solved for y in terms of x.

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