How do we know that wave f. is the eigenfunction of an operator H?

In summary, an eigenfunction is a function that satisfies an eigen-equation of the form ##\hat{H} \psi = E \psi##, where ##\hat{H}## is an operator and ##E## is the corresponding eigenvalue. In this context, the function ##\psi## can be a combination of an operator and a function.
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71GA
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I am kind of new to this eigenvalue, eigenfunction and operator things, but i have come across this quote many times:
##\psi## is the eigenfunction of an operator ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##W##.

First i need some explanation on how do we know this? All i know about operator ##\hat{H}## so far is this equation where ##\langle W \rangle## is an energy expected value:

\begin{align}
\langle W \rangle &= \int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty} \overline{\Psi}\, \left(- \frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{d^2}{d \, x^2} + W_p\right) \Psi \, d x
\end{align}

From which it follows that ##\hat{H} = - \frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{d^2}{d \, x^2} + W_p##.

Aditional question:

I know how to derive relation ##\hat{H}\hat{a} = (W - \hbar \omega)\hat{a} \psi## for which they state that:

##\hat{a} \psi## is an eigenfunction of operator ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##(W-\hbar \omega)##.

I also know how to derive relation ##\hat{H}\hat{a}^\dagger = (W + \hbar \omega)\hat{a}^\dagger \psi## for which they state that:

##\hat{a}^\dagger \psi## is an eigenfunction of operator ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##(W+\hbar \omega)##.

How do we know this?
 
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That's pretty much the definition of "eigenfunction" and "eigenvalue", isn't it?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
That's pretty much the definition of "eigenfunction" and "eigenvalue", isn't it?

What exactly here is the definition? Which equation?
 
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71GA said:
What exactly here is the definition? Which equation?
Any equation of the form
##\hat{H} \psi = E \psi##
is an eigen-equation

The functions ##\psi_n## which satisfy this equation are called the eigenfunctions of the operator ##\hat{H}##, with corresponding eigenvalues ##E_n##.

Put simply, when an operator ##\hat{H}## acts upon one of its eigenfunctions, it returns the same eigenfunction multiplied by a number, which we call the eigenvalue.
 
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Fightfish said:
Any equation of the form
##\hat{H} \psi = E \psi##
is an eigen-equation

The functions ##\psi_n## which satisfy this equation are called the eigenfunctions of the operator ##\hat{H}##, with corresponding eigenvalues ##E_n##.

Put simply, when an operator ##\hat{H}## acts upon one of its eigenfunctions, it returns the same eigenfunction multiplied by a number, which we call the eigenvalue.

1st:
In this equation ##\hat{H}\hat{a} = (W - \hbar \omega)\hat{a} \psi## is it possible that ##\hat{a} \psi## is an eigenfunction... i mean ##\hat{a}## is an operator...

2nd:
And is it possible that my quotings were wrong i will write the wrong one and the one that i think is better:

WRONG:
##\hat{a}\psi## is an eigenfunction of operator ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##(W−\hbar \omega)##.

RIGHT:
##\hat{a}\psi## is an eigenfunction of operators ##\hat{H}\hat{a}## with eigenvalue ##(W−\hbar \omega)##.
 
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71GA said:
1st:
In this equation ##\hat{H}\hat{a} = (W - \hbar \omega)\hat{a} \psi## is it possible that ##\hat{a} \psi## is an eigenfunction... i mean ##\hat{a}## is an operator...

2nd:
And is it possible that my quotings were wrong i will write the wrong one and the one that i think is better:

WRONG:
##\hat{a}\psi## is an eigenfunction of operator ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##(W−\hbar \omega)##.

RIGHT:
##\hat{a}\psi## is an eigenfunction of operators ##\hat{H}\hat{a}## with eigenvalue ##(W−\hbar \omega)##.

What's right is wrong and what's wrong is right :smile:
An operator maps one function into another, so if ##\hat{a}## is an operator and ##\psi## is a function, then ##\hat{a}\psi## is itself a function.

And I think that you dropped a ##\psi## from the equation you started with. I would have expected ##\hat{H}\hat{a}\psi = (W - \hbar \omega)\hat{a} \psi##, and written that way it is clear that the function ##\hat{a}\psi## is an eigenfunction of ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##(W−\hbar \omega)##... Or at least adding a few parentheses will make it clear:

[tex]\hat{H}(\hat{a}\psi) = (W - \hbar \omega)(\hat{a} \psi)[/tex]
 
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Nugatory said:
What's right is wrong and what's wrong is right :smile:
An operator maps one function into another, so if ##\hat{a}## is an operator and ##\psi## is a function, then ##\hat{a}\psi## is itself a function.

And I think that you dropped a ##\psi## from the equation you started with. I would have expected ##\hat{H}\hat{a}\psi = (W - \hbar \omega)\hat{a} \psi##, and written that way it is clear that the function ##\hat{a}\psi## is an eigenfunction of ##\hat{H}## with eigenvalue ##(W−\hbar \omega)##... Or at least adding a few parentheses will make it clear:

[tex]\hat{H}(\hat{a}\psi) = (W - \hbar \omega)(\hat{a} \psi)[/tex]

Ok so the eigenfunction can be a combination of an operator $\hat{a}$ and a function $\psi$?
 
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71GA said:
Ok so the eigenfunction can be a combination of an operator $\hat{a}$ and a function $\psi$?
Why not? An operator acting on a function gives you another function.
 
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Thanks.
 

FAQ: How do we know that wave f. is the eigenfunction of an operator H?

How do we determine the eigenfunction of an operator H?

The eigenfunction of an operator H can be determined by solving the eigenvalue equation Hψ = Eψ, where ψ is the eigenfunction and E is the corresponding eigenvalue.

What is the significance of an eigenfunction in the study of wave functions?

An eigenfunction is a special type of wave function that represents a state in which the wave function remains unchanged when acted upon by a certain operator. This allows us to easily study and analyze the behavior of the system.

How does the eigenfunction relate to the energy levels of a system?

The eigenfunction corresponds to a specific energy level of the system, with the eigenvalue representing the energy associated with that level. This allows us to determine the energy levels of the system and how they are affected by different operators.

Can an operator have multiple eigenfunctions?

Yes, an operator can have multiple eigenfunctions, each with its own corresponding eigenvalue. This allows for a more detailed understanding of the system and its behavior.

How do we confirm that a given wave function is indeed an eigenfunction of an operator H?

We can confirm that a given wave function is an eigenfunction of an operator H by plugging it into the eigenvalue equation Hψ = Eψ and solving for the corresponding eigenvalue. If the solution satisfies the equation, then the wave function is indeed an eigenfunction of the operator.

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