How Do Wine Flavors Develop During Fermentation?

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In summary, where wine "flavors" come from is mainly from the fermentation process. Different grapes have different levels of sweetness and alcohol, as well as different levels of tannin. The grape's growing conditions, as well as the addition of fruits or spices during fermentation, also play a role in creating the wine's flavors.
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Where wine "flavors" come from

It's mainly from the fermentation apparently. I've always wondered about what process prompts a reviewer to describe a wine as having

"aromas of pineapples, apples and kiwi fruit, with complements of spice, butter, caramel, vanilla and toasty oak"

when none of these substances (except for the oak) are added in the wine-making process!

http://www.winexmagazine.com/index.php/wine/viewdrink/fermenting-for-flavors/

I just thought this was an interesting article - good enough to share.
 
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Welcome back. :approve:
 
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I've heard supposedly that they add certain fruits and such to the mulch they use when growing the grapes to add different flavours. Maybe that isn't true, or perhaps they believed it worked but it was really part of the fermentation process that created the flavours.
 
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I briefly worked for a french restaurant specializing in french wines. They had a dedicated wine expert who was hired to explain the flavors in wines. While I don't remember everything they taught us, I do remember the basics.

The type of grape has the biggest influence. The most important characteristic of the grape is the thickness of the skin which determines how much tannin is in the grape, which determines how much sweetness or alcohol can be obtained.

The second major influence is the growing conditions, in particular the grape's exposure to sunlight. Does it have consistent hot sun on it, or is it in shade, or does it have inconsistent sunlight, etc..all this has a major effect on how the grape matures and tastes. This is why wines in similar regions may taste similarly..for example in Loire valley, Bordeux, Rhone, or in cali you have Napa valley etc. Depending on the type of grape, it is better grown in different regions.

Another influence is the local terroir...this just means all the other growing conditions. The minerals in the soil (eg, is there bedrock right underneath, limestone, etc) or is there an apple orchard neardby...some places will plant apple trees next to their grapes just so that the apples rot and fall in the soil and hopefully influence the flavor of the grapes. How much difference does this actually make? I do not know
 
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"A wine grape is a unique fruit in that it contains natural chemical compounds that are also found in other fruits and vegetables."

:bugeye:
 
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Flavour has a u in it. Accidental spelling mistakes are fine but someone should have nipped this one in the bud decades ago. The same goes for colour and favourite
 
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neu said:
nipped this one in the bud decades ago.
Nipped? then you ought to know that nip means you're running around in your birthday suit :smile:
 
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Math Is Hard said:
where wine "flavors" come from
Actually there may be a much simpler explanation (at least for the dominant flavor). It comes from the substrate you are fermenting. One time in my college biochem lab, there were plastic gallon containers all bubbling CO2 into flasks on my bench. Each container had a unique label; strawberry, watermelon, peach, cranberry, banana. Each fruit was being fermented into wine.
 
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neu said:
Flavour has a u in it. Accidental spelling mistakes are fine but someone should have nipped this one in the bud decades ago. The same goes for colour and favourite

Please consult an English dictionary.
 
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junglebeast said:
I briefly worked for a french restaurant specializing in french wines. They had a dedicated wine expert who was hired to explain the flavors in wines. While I don't remember everything they taught us, I do remember the basics.

junglebeast gives an excellent summary of many of the dominant factors.

I'll just add another one I can think of that I don't think he got to... the container that the wine is fermented in, as well as the length of fermentation in that container. Some people really like "oak" and different types can give different flavor hints or tones... from decidedly woody or earthy, to astringent or tannic, to spicy (like cinnamon, clove, etc.). I found this rather neat http://www.worldcooperage.com/default.aspx" that sells different oak barrels.
 
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Davido said:
You know because of this, except most of the French people in strict France I have met, everyone calls me kitty cat. Because I don't smoke or can stand the smoke, and I don't drink at all.
Once I met an European woman and she was surprised when I said I didn't drink beer, then she slowly turned away thinking I am a gay. But I think I am going to be friends with anyone who mostly are like me. "No drink, no smoke, no insults on friends, must talk gently, and above ALL must respect others'kindness and must understand how to sympathize with people around". That's my friends!

I doubt they think you are gay. I have no idea why anyone would think homosexuals are teetotalers. They may think you are 'uptight' or perhaps overly religious. There are a lot of people who do not drink or smoke that will lecture or look down upon others who do. That is not to say you would do such a thing but some people may think that you would.
 
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"Aromas of pineapples, apples and kiwi fruit, with complements of spice, butter, caramel, vanilla and toasty oak."

So reads another magazine's review of a chardonnay.

If you've ever had the chance to taste wine grape juice before it's been fermented, you know it doesn't taste like finished wine. It tastes like, well, grape juice. So where do all these fruit, spice and other flavors come from? (Do winemakers put them in?) Can they actually add different flavors to make wine taste a certain way? Well, the answer is yes, and no.

First, let's look at fruit flavors in wine. If winemakers don't add other fruits to wine -- and they don't -- then where do these fruit flavors come from? According to Terrance Leighton, molecular biologist at the University of California at Davis, "A wine's flavor, character and aroma are locked up in the grape, and it's the yeast (through fermentation) that activates -- unlocks -- these characteristics."

A wine grape is a unique fruit in that it contains natural chemical compounds that are also found in other fruits and vegetables. Fermentation, a simple chemical reaction, releases these compounds, and so we smell and taste these same aromas and flavors in the finished wine. For example, the strong black pepper aroma and flavor of California zinfandel (red, of course) comes from the same compound that gives black pepper its spicy kick. And the tangy apple flavor found in most chardonnays comes primarily from malic acid, the tart acid found in apples.

http://www.winexmagazine.com/index.php/wine/viewdrink/fermenting-for-flavors/

There's more to the article if you want to read a bit more, but this is a much more coherent explanation than I can offer for how the various flavours blossom in grape wine.

P.S. Yes, there's a "u" in flavour.
 
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junglebeast said:
Please consult an English dictionary.

You mean "please consult and American dictionary".
 
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GeorginaS said:
http://www.winexmagazine.com/index.php/wine/viewdrink/fermenting-for-flavors/

There's more to the article if you want to read a bit more, but this is a much more coherent explanation than I can offer for how the various flavours blossom in grape wine.

P.S. Yes, there's a "u" in flavour.

That's the same article I posted, I think.
 
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junglebeast said:
neu said:
Flavour has a u in it. Accidental spelling mistakes are fine but someone should have nipped this one in the bud decades ago. The same goes for colour and favourite
Please consult an English dictionary.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/flavour?view=uk

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/colour?view=uk

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/favourite?view=uk

You shouldn't leave to others what can be done by yourself. (Although I just read back that sentence and finding myself disagreeing with it)
 

FAQ: How Do Wine Flavors Develop During Fermentation?

Where do the flavors in wine come from?

The flavors in wine come from a combination of factors, including the type of grape used, the location where the grapes were grown, the climate and soil conditions, and the winemaking process. The specific flavors in a wine can also be influenced by the use of oak barrels, aging techniques, and the addition of other ingredients such as sugar or spices.

How do different grapes affect the flavors in wine?

Different types of grapes have different characteristics and flavors, which can greatly impact the overall flavor profile of a wine. For example, a Cabernet Sauvignon grape will produce a wine with bold and tannic flavors, while a Pinot Noir grape will result in a lighter and more delicate wine. Winemakers often blend different types of grapes to create a more complex and balanced flavor profile.

Can the location where grapes are grown affect the flavors in wine?

Absolutely. The climate, soil, and topography of a vineyard can greatly influence the flavors in wine. Grapes grown in cooler climates tend to have higher acidity and more subtle flavors, while grapes grown in warmer climates tend to have more ripe and robust flavors. Additionally, the type of soil can affect the mineral content in the grapes, which can also impact the wine's flavors.

How does the winemaking process affect the flavors in wine?

The winemaking process can greatly impact the flavors in wine. Factors such as fermentation temperature, length of fermentation, and the use of different yeast strains can all affect the final flavor of the wine. Additionally, the type of barrels used for aging, the length of time the wine is aged, and any additions or adjustments made during the winemaking process can also contribute to the flavor profile of a wine.

Are there any other factors that can influence the flavors in wine?

Yes, there are many other factors that can affect the flavors in wine. For example, the age of the wine can greatly impact its flavor, as well as the way it is stored and served. Even the food paired with a wine can affect its perceived flavors. Ultimately, the flavors in wine are a complex combination of many different factors, making each bottle a unique and complex experience for the palate.

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