How Do You Calculate Buoyant Force on Submerged Ice?

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In summary, the book states that the buoyant force on an object submerged in water is equal to the weight of the water displaced. The physical quantity that is represented by (mass of ice) /(density of ice) is the volume of the ice.
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Homework Statement



What is the buoyant force on 0.760 kg of ice held completely submerged underwater.

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The Attempt at a Solution



My book gives
Fb = (m_w) x (g) = (density of water / density of ice)x ( mass of ice) x (g)
g is gravity m_w is mass of water.
I really don't understand this. What is really confusing me is is the density of water / density of ice
I don't get it.
Thanks
 
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Jbreezy said:

Homework Statement



What is the buoyant force on 0.760 kg of ice held completely submerged underwater.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



My book gives
Fb = (m_w) x (g) = (density of water / density of ice)x ( mass of ice) x (g)
g is gravity m_w is mass of water.
I really don't understand this. What is really confusing me is is the density of water / density of ice
I don't get it.
Thanks
As I understand,
buyont force=mass of the water removed by ice * g
now mass of water removed by the ice= volume of the water*density of the water
since, volume of the water removed by the ice will be equal to the volume of ice itself.
so mass of the water=volume of ice* density of water
so,
Fb= volume of ice* density of water*g
Fb= (mass of ice/density of ice)*density of water*g
or Fb=(density of water / density of ice)x ( mass of ice) x (g)
I hope it may help.
 
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Think about the concept of Archimedes's principal. Forget the formula. The buoyancy force is equal to the weight of the water displaced.
 
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barryj said:
Think about the concept of Archimedes's principal. Forget the formula. The buoyancy force is equal to the weight of the water displaced.

ohk...remove the removed by displaced...:)
 
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Jbreezy said:
Fb = (m_w) x (g) = (density of water / density of ice)x ( mass of ice) x (g)
What physical quantity would (mass of ice) /(density of ice) represent?
What would multiplying that by (density of water) give you?
 
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What physical quantity would (mass of ice) /(density of ice) represent?
This would be the volume or the ice?

What would multiplying that by (density of water) give you?
Then it would give you the total density of the mass and the ice?

But my solution did the density of water/ density of ice
multiplied by the mass of the ice.
I'm sorry I'm having a hard time putting this together.
 
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Jbreezy said:
What physical quantity would (mass of ice) /(density of ice) represent?
This would be the volume of the ice?
Yes.
What would multiplying that by (density of water) give you?
Then it would give you the total density of the mass and the ice?
No, you're multiplying a volume by a density, so it should give you a mass - but the mass of what?
Remember, the volume of the ice is equal to the volume of water it displaces.
 
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The mass of water?
I just got really confused because of how it was written and I need to understand the principle that the volume of an object submerged (or partially) is equal to the volume of the water that is displaced. ( Whatever it is in)

I did this

M_i / Di = Vi
Vi x D_w = M_w
Because Vi= V_w

So then we has mass of water so mass of water times gravity is the good old
F = ma
Right or not correct my thinking.
Thanks to the help
 
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Think about the problem this way.

You are given the mass of the ice. Look up the density of ice and find the volume.
This is the volume of water displaced.
Look up the density of water, and knowing the volume of water displaced, find the mass of the water displaced.
Multiply the mass of water displaced by g to get the weight.
That is all there is to it.
 
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Jbreezy said:
The mass of water?
The mass of water displaced, yes.
So then we has mass of water so mass of water times gravity is the good old
F = ma
Yes. So do you now see how the formula in the book works?
 
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As to formulas, you need force = mass X g and density = mass/volume
(volume of ice) = (mass of ice)/(density of ice)
(volume of water ) = (volume of ice)
(mass of water) = (volume of water)(density of water)
(force) = (mass of water)g

Put it all together and you get the formula
 

FAQ: How Do You Calculate Buoyant Force on Submerged Ice?

What is a buyoant force problem?

A buyoant force problem is a physics problem that involves calculating the upward force acting on an object in a fluid, such as water or air. This force is known as the buyoant force and is caused by the difference in density between the object and the surrounding fluid.

What factors affect the buyoant force?

The buyoant force is affected by the density of the object and the density of the surrounding fluid. It is also affected by the volume of the object submerged in the fluid. Additionally, the strength of the gravitational force also plays a role in determining the buyoant force.

How is the buyoant force calculated?

The buyoant force can be calculated using Archimedes' principle, which states that the buyoant force on an object is equal to the weight of the fluid that the object displaces. This can be expressed mathematically as FB = ρfVg, where FB is the buyoant force, ρf is the density of the fluid, V is the volume of the object submerged, and g is the acceleration due to gravity.

What is the difference between buyoant force and weight?

While both buyoant force and weight are forces acting on an object, they are different in their origins. Weight is the force due to gravity acting on an object, while buyoant force is the upward force from the surrounding fluid that opposes the weight. Additionally, weight is a constant force, while the buyoant force can change depending on the density and volume of the object and the surrounding fluid.

How is the buyoant force used in everyday life?

The buyoant force has many practical applications in everyday life. It is the principle behind why objects float in water, and it is also used in designing ships and submarines. Additionally, buyoant force is used in scuba diving to determine the amount of weight needed to achieve neutral buoyancy underwater.

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