How Do You Calculate Gamma in Thermodynamics?

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To calculate gamma (γ) in thermodynamics, the relationship γ = Cp/Cv is essential, and it can help identify the type of gas present. The discussion emphasizes selecting an adiabatic process, with the user choosing process AD, but struggles due to a lack of values and difficulty interpreting graphs. The efficiency can be calculated using ε = W/Qh = (Qh - Qc)/Qh, and temperatures at various points (A, B, C, D) must be determined in terms of initial pressure (P0) and volume (V0). The ideal gas law (PV = nRT) is suggested for calculating these temperatures, and relationships between them should be established. Understanding these concepts is crucial for successfully solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



γ = Cp/Cv
ε = W/Qh
PiVi^γ = PfVf^γ

The Attempt at a Solution



I know I have to find the gamma firstly in order to determine what type of gas is present here. And to do that I have to pick one of the adiabatic processes. I chose to do AD. But I am literally lost at how to set this up because we aren't really given values and reading graphs is not one of my strong suits in physics.

Note - The green in picture means "Correct". I just input 1 for the gas and .25 for the efficiency off guessing.
 
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VitaX said:
γ = Cp/Cv
ε = W/Qh
PiVi^γ = PfVf^γ

The Attempt at a Solution



I know I have to find the gamma firstly in order to determine what type of gas is present here. And to do that I have to pick one of the adiabatic processes. I chose to do AD. But I am literally lost at how to set this up because we aren't really given values and reading graphs is not one of my strong suits in physics.
To calculate the efficiency use:

ε = W/Qh = (Qh-Qc)/Qh

First, find the temperatures at A, B, C and D in terms of P0, and V0.

Then using the adiabatic condition expressed in terms of T and V, work out Cp/Cv. You will then be able to find Qh and Qc from the graph (for the constant pressure processes dQ = nCpdT) in terms of P0 and V0.

AM
 
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Andrew Mason said:
To calculate the efficiency use:

ε = W/Qh = (Qh-Qc)/Qh

First, find the temperatures at A, B, C and D in terms of P0, and V0.

Then using the adiabatic condition expressed in terms of T and V, work out Cp/Cv. You will then be able to find Qh and Qc from the graph (for the constant pressure processes dQ = nCpdT) in terms of P0 and V0.

AM
Do you mean using the ideal gas law PV = nRT?

Point A Temperature:
PoVo = 1.55*8.31*T
T = PoVo/12.8805

Point D Temperature:
(Po/32)*8Vo = 1.55*8.31*T
T = PoVo/51.522

Is this what you were saying?
 
VitaX said:
Do you mean using the ideal gas law PV = nRT?

Point A Temperature:
PoVo = 1.55*8.31*T
T = PoVo/12.8805

Point D Temperature:
(Po/32)*8Vo = 1.55*8.31*T
T = PoVo/51.522

Is this what you were saying?
Yes. Calculate T at B and C now using the same method. But show the relationships between them:

T_D = 8T_A/32 = T_A/4

AM
 
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