How Do You Calculate Instantaneous Power in Electric Circuits?

[VitaX]

Homework Statement

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Homework Equations

p = dW/dt; p = vi; W = Integral (p(t)) dt

The Attempt at a Solution

I think for the most part I got parts a and b correct. What I'm having significant trouble with is part c. The answer in the back of the book is 42.678 W. I believe I have to find power first, then find the energy from integrating that power and lastly take the derivative with respect to time in order to find the instantaneous power. The only thing is, what values of t are even present to plug in at the end to find the answer to part c? I'm getting confused on this one, badly.

 

[tiny-tim]

Hi VitaX!

… what values of t are even present to plug in at the end to find the answer to part c?

You should get a formula for power flow, as a function of t …

then just find the maximum. ​

But if you're still having difficulty, show us your full calculations so far

 

[VitaX]

Well I'm looking at this http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/powerac.html

Instantaneous Power = Vm*Im*Cos(theta)*Sin^2(wt) - Vm*Im*Sin(theta)*Sin(wt)*Cos(wt)

I know to find t I would have to plug in my values and then proceed to take the derivative and set equation equal to zero, but I'm having a lot of difficulty even attempting to take the derivative of this equation. Isn't there a way to simply this down somewhat for ease of use?

Edit: Nevermind with part C, I believe the teacher just wanted us to find the max using a graphing method.

 

[tiny-tim]

Hi VitaX!

(just got up :zzz: …)

Edit: Nevermind with part C, I believe the teacher just wanted us to find the max using a graphing method.

For future reference, it would have been easier just to use P = VI and the original formulas,

V = 10sin(2π10³t), I = 10sin(2π10³t - 45°) = (10/√2)(sin(2π10³t) - cos(2π10³t))

Also that formula for P from hyperphysics isn't very informative …

an easier formula (from the PF Library on https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=303") is

$$P = VI =\ V_{max}I_{max}\cos(\omega t + \phi/2)\cos(\omega t - \phi/2)$$
$$=\ V_{max}I_{max}(\cos\phi + \cos2\omega t)/2$$​

(because $2cosAcosB = cos(A-B) + cos(A+B))$)

$$=\ V_{rms}I_{rms}(\cos\phi + \cos2\omega t)$$​

which clearly separates the constant part and the variable part ​

 

[rwisz]

I would first like to commend you for attempting to solve this problem on your own and for seeking clarification when you encounter difficulties. It shows a great level of dedication and critical thinking skills.

In order to solve part c of this problem, we need to use the equation p = dW/dt, which relates power (p) to the rate of change of energy (dW/dt). In this case, we are given the power as a function of time (p(t)), so we need to integrate this function with respect to time in order to find the total energy (W) over the given time period.

Once we have the total energy, we can differentiate it with respect to time to find the instantaneous power at any given time. In this case, the time period given is from 0 to 4 seconds, so we need to plug in these values for t in order to find the total energy. This will give us a value in Joules (J).

Next, we need to differentiate this value with respect to time to find the instantaneous power at any given time. This means we need to take the derivative of the function we found for the total energy with respect to time. This will give us a function for instantaneous power (p(t)).

Finally, we need to plug in the value of 4 seconds for t in order to find the instantaneous power at that time. This will give us the answer of 42.678 W, which is the same as the answer given in the back of the book.

In summary, to solve part c of this problem, we need to integrate the power function with respect to time to find the total energy, differentiate the total energy with respect to time to find the instantaneous power function, and then plug in the given time value to find the instantaneous power at that time. I hope this helps clarify the steps needed to solve this problem.