How Do You Calculate the Moment of a Force About an Edge Using Determinants?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving the moment of a force around an edge and the solution to the problem. The individual is self-teaching and is looking for an explanation of a form of solving that they have not seen before. They provide data and the answer, but are struggling to understand how to arrive at the answer using the given equation. The conversation includes a link to a picture for easier reference and a solution attempt that involves multiplying elements in a zig-zag pattern. The conversation concludes with a clarification on the negative sign in one of the calculations.
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Hello guys, I have a physics class this session and I'm self-teaching myself most of the material. It's going not too bad so far but I have come across a form of solving I have not seen before and would like to understand how it works. I have the data and the answer, I just don't know how to get the answer from the equation. This is the last part of a problem I have to solve that deal with the moment of a force about an edge.

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For easier format, here is a picture:
http://unwantedcreations.com/img/physic_1.png
First line is λ of the edge
Second line are the coordinate of the point of application of force F
third line are the components x, y and z of the force F.

in case you don't get it at all, here is the problem and solution:
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Ok so I think I get where -25.363 come from, if you take 0.99228 * -1.8 * 14.2 it does make -25.363, but where does -10.5678 comes from? No idea.

Thank you for your time guys.
 
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hi ucflap! :smile:
ucflap said:
Ok so I think I get where -25.363 come from, if you take 0.99228 * -1.8 * 14.2 it does make -25.363, but where does -10.5678 comes from? No idea.

it's 0.124035*6*14.2 …

to calculate a determinant, you multiply one element from each row and column, ie you zig-zag in every possible way

there are only two zig-zags that don't include a 0, and 0.124035*6*14.2 is one of them :wink:

(to see why it's minus, look up a book or wikipedia on determinants)
 

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