B How Do You Derive the Formula for sin(x-y)?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the formula for sin(x-y) using trigonometric identities and Pythagorean theorem. The initial derivation leads to the expression sin^2(x-y) and explores the relationship with cos(x-y). A key point of confusion arises regarding the correct formulation of sin(x-y), with two potential expressions being considered. The conversation suggests that familiarity with Euler's formula can simplify the process of proving these identities. Ultimately, the participants emphasize the importance of understanding these foundational concepts for solving related problems more effectively.
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In trying to derive the compound angle formula for sin(x-y), I ended up with two possible solutions from the quadratic. How do I know which solution to take?
I was trying to show that ##sin(x-y) = sin(x)cos(y)-cos(x)sin(y)## using Pythagoras' theorem and ##cos(x-y)=cos(x)cos(y)+sin(x)sin(y)##.

I have:
$$sin^2(x-y)=1-cos^2(x-y)$$
$$sin^2(x-y)=1-(cos(x)cos(y)+sin(x)sin(y))^2$$
$$sin^2(x-y)=1-(cos^2(x)cos^2(y)+sin^2(x)sin^2(y)+2cos(x)cos(y)sin(x)sin(y))$$
$$sin^2(x-y)=1-(cos^2(x)(1-sin^2(y))+sin^2(x)(1-cos^2(y))+2cos(x)cos(y)sin(x)sin(y))$$
$$sin^2(x-y)=(cos^2(x)sin^2(y)+sin^2(x)cos^2(y)-2cos(x)cos(y)sin(x)sin(y))$$
$$sin^2(x-y)=(cos(x)sin(y)-sin(x)cos(y))^2$$

But now how do you know if it's ##sin(x-y)=cos(x)sin(y)-sin(x)cos(y)## or ##sin(x-y)=sin(x)cos(y)-cos(x)sin(y)##?
 
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For y=0
The first one says
\sin x=-\sin x
The senond one says
\sin x=\sin x
 
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You could note that$$\sin(x-y) = \cos(x-y -\frac{\pi}2)$$Then apply the cosine result to the right-hand side.
 
FYI, you will be able to solve these problems much more methodically if you are familiar with Euler's formula, ##e^{ix}=\cos(x)+i\sin(x)##, and the associated identities, ##\sin(x) = (e^{ix}-e^{-ix})/2i## and ##\cos(x) = (e^{ix}+e^{-ix})/2##.

PS. I can not see your profile, so I do not know if your mathematical background should have already covered these identities.
 
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FYI, you will be able to solve these problems much more methodically if you are familiar with Euler's formula, ##e^{ix}=\cos(x)+i\sin(x)##, and the associated identities, ##\sin(x) = (e^{ix}-e^{-ix})/2i## and ##\cos(x) = (e^{ix}+e^{-ix})/2##.

PS. I can not see your profile, so I do not know if your mathematical background should have already covered these identities.
There are more direct way. I am unable to remember those formulae and I'm using the following way to prove/remember pairs of them, each time I need them.
$$\begin{align}
\cos(x-y)+i\sin(x-y)&=e^{i(x-y)}\nonumber \\
&=e^{ix-iy}\nonumber \\
&=e^{ix} \cdot e^{-iy}\nonumber \\
&=e^{ix} \cdot e^{i(-y)}\nonumber \\
&=\left[\cos(x)+i\sin(x)\right]\cdot\left[\cos(-y)+i\sin(-y)\right]\nonumber \\
\end{align}$$
Using parity of sine and cosine functions and multiplication at the end, pairs of the required formulas are obtained.
 
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Bosko said:
There are more direct way. I am unable to remember those formulae and I'm using the following way to prove/remember pairs of them, each time I need them.
$$\begin{align}
\cos(x-y)+i\sin(x-y)&=e^{i(x-y)}\nonumber \\
&=e^{ix-iy}\nonumber \\
&=e^{ix} \cdot e^{-iy}\nonumber \\
&=e^{ix} \cdot e^{i(-y)}\nonumber \\
&=\left[\cos(x)+i\sin(x)\right]\cdot\left[\cos(-y)+i\sin(-y)\right]\nonumber \\
\end{align}$$
Using the parity of sine and cosine and multiplication at the end, pairs of the required formulas are obtained.
Very good. As I wrote my post, I kept thinking that it there was a better way but I couldn't remember it.
 
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