How do you find the diameter of certain atoms?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of finding the diameter of a copper atom, which involves calculating the volume per atom and using the volume of a sphere formula to solve for the radius. The process is the same for all elements, but the number of atoms in a single row on an edge may vary depending on the crystal structure and allotrope of the element. The example of lead is used to illustrate the potential variations in atomic size due to isotopic abundance.
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I only have one example that I can find, and that's finding the diameter of a copper atom. Do most elements follow these steps?

1.) Make sure density is in kg/m^3
2.) find number of copper atoms in a 1 meter by 1 meter cube.
3.) find number of atoms in one edge(row?) of said cube.
4.) find diameter of one atom in that edge.

I understand this assuming its correct. What I don't understand is the math, and how it will differ with different elements.

So can we do an example of say, lead? one mole of it has a mass of 207.2g and a density of 11.4 g/cm^3.? How do you do each step and WHY?

Assume I know nothing besides what I've said lol
 
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BUMP.

Nobody knows how to do this? Help if you can :)
 
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At one time, diffraction of x-rays of known wavelength were Bragg-diffracted off of simple crystals to determine the separation of crystal planes, thus determining the size of the crystal lattice and the volume occupied by single atoms.
Bob S
 
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That's a roundabout way of doing it.

1. Calculate volume per mole as molar mass / density.
2. Divide by N_A and convert units to something small, like nm or Angstroms to get volume per atom.
3. Plug into volume for a sphere and solve for radius.

The procedure is not different for different elements. Keep in mind that the size of an atom is not something that can be well defined; the same kind of atom will be different sizes in different chemical environments.
 
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Finding the number of atoms in a single row on an edge of some elements is very dependent on the crystal structure of the element, and the specific allotrope. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_carbon
Graphite for example is a staggered hexagonal structure. Is the atomic spacing the same on all edges? Does the spacing change depending on allotrope (compare diamond and graphite)? Is the atomic diameter depend on whether the spacing is cubic (same dimension in x, y, z) or rectangular (like in graphite)? This cannot be done with a meter stick and a scale. Lead is an unusual element in that the isotopic abundance varies depending on where it is mined. So if all isotopes have different densities, does this mean that the atomic sizes are different?
Bob S
 

FAQ: How do you find the diameter of certain atoms?

What tool is used to measure the diameter of atoms?

The diameter of atoms is measured using a technique called X-ray crystallography. This involves bombarding a sample with X-rays and analyzing the resulting diffraction pattern.

Can atoms of different elements have the same diameter?

No, the diameter of atoms depends on the number of protons, neutrons, and electrons they contain. Therefore, atoms of different elements have different sizes.

How accurate is the measurement of an atom's diameter?

The accuracy of measuring an atom's diameter depends on the method used. X-ray crystallography can measure the diameter of atoms with an accuracy of 0.01 nanometers.

Is it possible to measure the diameter of an individual atom?

Yes, with the development of advanced technologies such as atomic force microscopy and scanning tunneling microscopy, it is now possible to measure the diameter of individual atoms.

Are there any other factors that can affect the measurement of an atom's diameter?

Yes, factors such as temperature, pressure, and the state of the atom (solid, liquid, or gas) can affect the measurement of an atom's diameter. These factors must be carefully controlled during the measurement process.

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