How Do You Find the Double Derivative of This Function?

In summary, the conversation is about a student seeking help with a calculus problem involving implicit differentiation and finding the second derivative. The student asks for step-by-step explanations and other users offer tips and suggestions. The general plan is to differentiate the equation twice and plug in the known values to solve for f''(2). The conversation also includes a discussion on the product rule and chain rule in differentiation.
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ozzie6616
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Okay so I have this calculus teacher who is crazy and gave us this problem on an exam. I don't know how to figure it out and I tried getting explanations but they were really hard and complicated.:confused: :confused: :confused: So here is the problem

x^2 [f(x)]^4 + xf(x) = 6

f(2) = 1 Find f''(2)


I would most greatly appreciate it if someone showed me how to solve the problem step by step.
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Hi ozzie,
I hope you know how to differentiate using the product rule and chain rule, because those are the only things you need to solve the problem. Try that out and report any difficulty you might have.
 
  • #3
I assume it is meant to differentiate the equation first one; from that determine f'(2), and then differentiate again and determine f''(2).
 
  • #4
that looks like it requires some implicit differentiation, which i haven't encountered since calc I, so i don't really know how to do that one.
 
  • #5
neutrino said:
Hi ozzie,
I hope you know how to differentiate using the product rule and chain rule, because those are the only things you need to solve the problem. Try that out and report any difficulty you might have.
Is one method preferable to the other?
 
  • #6
dimensionless said:
Is one method preferable to the other?
Both are required.
 
  • #7
yes it does require implicit differentiation. I have gone through the first step to find the first derivative, however when I get stumped when finding the second derivative.

This is how far i got and I don't know if its right.
2x[f(x)]^4 + 4[F(x)]^3[f'(x)]x^2 + f(x) + f(x) + f'(x)x=0

Now I don't know what to do next.
 
  • #8
ozzie6616 said:
yes it does require implicit differentiation. I have gone through the first step to find the first derivative, however when I get stumped when finding the second derivative.

This is how far i got and I don't know if its right.
2x[f(x)]^4 + 4[F(x)]^3[f'(x)]x^2 + f(x) + f(x) + f'(x)x=0

Now I don't know what to do next.

There is an extra f(x). Now substitute x = 2 and f(2) = 1 to find f'(x). And differntiate the above equation once more to get one the expression for f''(x). Plug-in the known values at x=2 and find f''.
 
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so, the general plan is:
-differentiate once with respect to x
-evaluate the expression @x=2
-solve for f '(2)
-differentiate again with respect to x
-evaluate the new expression @x=2
-solve for the only unknown f ''(2)

a tip:

d/dx[ f(x)^4 ] = 4*f '(x)*f(x)^3

so the first derivative should be:

x^2*4*f '(x)*f(x)^3+2x*f(x)^4+x*f '(x)+f(x)=0

that is using the product rule on both terms of the original equation.

to further understand the differentiation of a general function f(x)
take careful note that: d/dx[f(x)]=f '(x)*d/dx(x)
so for example d/dx[ f(x^2) ]= f '(x^2)*2x
 

FAQ: How Do You Find the Double Derivative of This Function?

What is a double derivative?

A double derivative is a mathematical concept that represents the rate of change of a derivative. In other words, it is the rate at which the rate of change of a function is changing.

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