How Do You Minimize Mean Square Deviation in Dice Roll Predictions?

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the minimal mean square deviation for random variables X and Y, given a joint distribution and marginal distributions. It is determined that the minimum value occurs when b is equal to the covariance of X and Y divided by the variance of X, and a is equal to the expected value of Y minus b times the expected value of X. The correctness of these values is confirmed through calculations and a comparison with the expected values. It is also suggested to check whether these values make sense by graphing the data.
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mathmari
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Hey! :giggle:

We consider a double roll of the dice. The random variable X describes the number of pips in the first roll of the dice and Y the maximum of the two numbers.
The joint distribution and the marginal distributions are given by the following table
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Using :
For all $a,b\in \mathbb{R}$ it holds that $$E[(Y-a-bX)^2]\geq E[(Y-a^{\star}-b^{\star}X)^2]=Var(Y)(1-\rho^2(X,Y))$$ where $b^{\star}=\frac{Cov(X,Y)}{Var(X)}$ and $a^{\star}=E[Y-b^{\star}X]$.

Determine $a,b\in \mathbb{R}$ such that for X and Y the mean square deviation $E [(Y - (a + bX))^2]$ becomes minimal. Give also the corresponding minimum value for this mean square deviation.This term is minimal when $b=\frac{Cov(X,Y)}{Var(X)}$ and $a=E[Y-b^{\star}X]$, right? Sowe have to calculate these values, don't we? :unsure:
 
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Hey mathmari!

Yep. (Nod)
 
  • #3
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Yep. (Nod)

We have that $\text{Cov}(X,Y)=E[XY]-E[X]E[Y]$ with \begin{align*}E[XY]&=\sum_{x}\sum_{y}xyP[X=x,Y=y]\\ & =1\cdot 1\cdot \frac{1}{36}+1\cdot 2\cdot \frac{1}{36}+1\cdot 3\cdot \frac{1}{36}+1\cdot 4\cdot \frac{1}{36}+1\cdot 5\cdot \frac{1}{36}+1\cdot 6\cdot \frac{1}{36} \\ & +
2\cdot 2\cdot \frac{2}{36}+2\cdot 3\cdot \frac{1}{36}+2\cdot 4\cdot \frac{1}{36}+2\cdot 5\cdot \frac{1}{36}+2\cdot 6\cdot \frac{1}{36}\\ & +
3\cdot 3\cdot \frac{3}{36}+3\cdot 4\cdot \frac{1}{36}+3\cdot 5\cdot \frac{1}{36}+3\cdot 6\cdot \frac{1}{36} \\ & +
4\cdot 4\cdot \frac{4}{36}+4\cdot 5\cdot \frac{1}{36}+4\cdot 6\cdot \frac{1}{36} \\ & +
5\cdot 5\cdot \frac{5}{36}+5\cdot 6\cdot \frac{1}{36}\\ & +
6\cdot 6\cdot \frac{6}{36}
\\ & =\frac{7}{12} +\frac{11}{9} + 2+ 3 + \frac{155}{36} + 6\\ & =\frac{154}{9}
\end{align*} and \begin{align*}&E[X]=\sum_xxP[X=x]=1\cdot \frac{1}{6}+2\cdot \frac{1}{6}+3\cdot \frac{1}{6}+4\cdot \frac{1}{6}+5\cdot \frac{1}{6}+6\cdot \frac{1}{6}=\frac{7}{2}\\ &E[Y]=\sum_yyP[Y=y]=1\cdot \frac{1}{36}+2\cdot \frac{3}{36}+3\cdot \frac{5}{36}+4\cdot \frac{7}{36}+5\cdot \frac{9}{36}+6\cdot \frac{11}{36}=\frac{161}{36}\end{align*}
So we get $\text{Cov}(X,Y)=E[XY]-E[X]E[Y]=\frac{154}{9}-\frac{7}{2}\cdot \frac{161}{36}=\frac{35}{24}$.

The variance is equal to \begin{align*}Var(X)&=E[X^2]-(E[X])^2=\sum_xx^2P[X=x]-\left (\frac{7}{2}\right )^2\\ & =\left (1^2\cdot \frac{1}{6}+2^2\cdot \frac{1}{6}+3^2\cdot \frac{1}{6}+4^2\cdot \frac{1}{6}+5^2\cdot \frac{1}{6}+6^2\cdot \frac{1}{6}\right )-\frac{49}{4}=\frac{91}{6}-\frac{49}{4}\\ & =\frac{35}{12}\end{align*}

Therefore we get \begin{equation*}b^{\star}=\frac{Cov(X,Y)}{Var(X)}=\frac{\frac{35}{24}}{\frac{35}{12}}=\frac{1}{2}\end{equation*} For $a$ we have that \begin{equation*}a^{\star}=E[Y-b^{\star}X]=E\left [Y-\frac{1}{2}X\right ]=E[Y]-\frac{1}{2}\cdot E[X]=\frac{161}{36}-\frac{1}{2}\cdot \frac{7}{2}=\frac{49}{18}\end{equation*}

Is everything correct and complete? :unsure:
 
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So the minimal value is
\begin{align*}E[(Y -(a^{\star}+b^{\star}X))^2]&=E\left [\left (Y -\left (\frac{49}{18}+\frac{1}{2}X\right )\right )^2\right ]\\ & =E\left [\frac{2401}{324} + \frac{49}{18} X + \frac{1}{4}X^2 - \frac{49}{9} Y - X Y + Y^2\right ]\\ & =\frac{2401}{324} + \frac{49}{18} E[X] + \frac{1}{4}E[X^2] - \frac{49}{9} E[Y ]- E[X Y] + E[Y^2]\\ & =\frac{2401}{324} + \frac{49}{18} \cdot \frac{7}{2} + \frac{1}{4}\cdot \frac{91}{6} - \frac{49}{9}\cdot \frac{161}{36}- \frac{154}{9} + E[Y^2]\\ & =-\frac{13433}{648} + E[Y^2]\end{align*}
We have that \begin{equation*}E[Y]=\sum_yy^2P[Y=y]=1^2\cdot \frac{1}{36}+2^2\cdot \frac{3}{36}+3^2\cdot \frac{5}{36}+4^2\cdot \frac{7}{36}+5^2\cdot \frac{9}{36}+6^2\cdot \frac{11}{36}=\frac{791}{36}\end{equation*}
Therefore we get \begin{equation*}E[(Y -(a^{\star}+b^{\star}X))^2]=-\frac{13433}{648} + \frac{791}{36}=\frac{805}{648}\end{equation*}
Is that correct ? :unsure:
 
  • #5
Typically we should check whether what we found "makes sense".
In the case of a least squares approximation, we usually draw a graph to see if the line we found matches the points more or less. 🤔
A graph also serves to see if it even makes sense to apply a least square approximation.

In this case we can also look at the numbers.
We found the minimal relation $\hat Y=a^*+b^*X=\frac{49}{18} + \frac 12 X$.
For $X=1$ we have equal probabilities for each of the possible $Y$, so we expect a result where $\hat Y$ is in the middle between 3 and 4.
If we fill it in, we get $\hat Y(1)=\frac{49}{18}+\frac 12\cdot 1\approx 3.22$, so that is in the right neighborhood.
We should do the same thing for at least $X=6$ where we expect $\hat Y\approx 6$. 🤔
 

FAQ: How Do You Minimize Mean Square Deviation in Dice Roll Predictions?

What is minimal mean square deviation?

Minimal mean square deviation, also known as minimum mean square error, is a statistical measure used to assess the accuracy of a prediction or estimate. It is calculated by taking the average of the squared differences between the predicted values and the actual values.

How is minimal mean square deviation used in scientific research?

Minimal mean square deviation is commonly used in scientific research to evaluate the performance of statistical models and to determine the best fit for a set of data. It is also used in machine learning and data analysis to optimize predictive models.

What is the difference between minimal mean square deviation and standard deviation?

Minimal mean square deviation and standard deviation are both measures of variability, but they have different purposes. Standard deviation measures the spread of data around the mean, while minimal mean square deviation measures the accuracy of a prediction or estimate.

How is minimal mean square deviation calculated?

Minimal mean square deviation is calculated by taking the average of the squared differences between the predicted values and the actual values. This value is then used to determine the accuracy of a prediction or estimate.

What are the limitations of minimal mean square deviation?

Minimal mean square deviation is sensitive to outliers and can be influenced by extreme values in the data. It also assumes that the errors are normally distributed, which may not always be the case. Additionally, it does not take into account the direction of the errors, only their magnitude.

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