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I am a bit confused by the equations for Fdrag (the force drag applies to an object) and Pdrag (the power required to overcome drag).
[tex]F_{drag} = \frac{1}{2} C_{d} \times \rho \times A \times \nu^{2}[/tex]
Where:
[tex]C_{d}[/tex] is the Drag Coeffecient (a dimensionless, empirically-derived constant).
[tex]\rho[/tex] is the density of the fluid (air or liquid)
A is the cross-sectional area incident incident on the object by the moving fluid (or moving body in a fluid)
[tex]\nu[/tex] is the speed of the object relative to the fluid.
This is fine. It's interesting that it has the same form as Kinetic Energy, with it's [tex]\frac{1}{2} \nu^{2}[/tex] term but since it was derived using dimensional analysis and the Buckingham π theorem, it seems that's just a coincidence.
Where I think things break down is when you go from Force to Power. Normally, one can compute Power from force and velocity by observing:
[tex]P = \vec{F} \cdot \vec{\nu}[/tex]
So most texts derive:
[tex]P_{drag} = \frac{1}{2} C_{d} \times \rho \times A \times \nu^{3}[/tex]
I assume this is born out by experiment as true so I can't argue it. But at the very least, I take it that assumes [tex]\nu[/tex] is constant. What if [tex]\nu[/tex] wasn't constant? Wouldn't you then have to, effectively, take the integral:
[tex]P = \frac{dW}{dt} = \frac{\int{F ds}}{dt}[/tex]
So would the power required to overcome drag in an accelerated reference frame be given by:
[tex]P_{drag} = \frac{1}{6} C_{d} \times \rho \times A \times \nu^{3}[/tex]
Can somebody please explain why power is given by the former and not the later equation? Thanks.
[tex]F_{drag} = \frac{1}{2} C_{d} \times \rho \times A \times \nu^{2}[/tex]
Where:
[tex]C_{d}[/tex] is the Drag Coeffecient (a dimensionless, empirically-derived constant).
[tex]\rho[/tex] is the density of the fluid (air or liquid)
A is the cross-sectional area incident incident on the object by the moving fluid (or moving body in a fluid)
[tex]\nu[/tex] is the speed of the object relative to the fluid.
This is fine. It's interesting that it has the same form as Kinetic Energy, with it's [tex]\frac{1}{2} \nu^{2}[/tex] term but since it was derived using dimensional analysis and the Buckingham π theorem, it seems that's just a coincidence.
Where I think things break down is when you go from Force to Power. Normally, one can compute Power from force and velocity by observing:
[tex]P = \vec{F} \cdot \vec{\nu}[/tex]
So most texts derive:
[tex]P_{drag} = \frac{1}{2} C_{d} \times \rho \times A \times \nu^{3}[/tex]
I assume this is born out by experiment as true so I can't argue it. But at the very least, I take it that assumes [tex]\nu[/tex] is constant. What if [tex]\nu[/tex] wasn't constant? Wouldn't you then have to, effectively, take the integral:
[tex]P = \frac{dW}{dt} = \frac{\int{F ds}}{dt}[/tex]
So would the power required to overcome drag in an accelerated reference frame be given by:
[tex]P_{drag} = \frac{1}{6} C_{d} \times \rho \times A \times \nu^{3}[/tex]
Can somebody please explain why power is given by the former and not the later equation? Thanks.