How does GR impact acceleration and reaching the speed of light?

In summary: If, however, v and a are measured in the same frame of reference then the result will be c. In summary, the man in the video suggests that you could accelerate at a constant one g for 10 years and not reach the speed of light due to GR effects. However, this is not the case as proper acceleration (the amount you feel) is always equal to coordinate acceleration (the second time derivative of position). If you work out the math, you find that the curve of constant proper acceleration asymptotically approaches c, but never reaches or exceeds it.
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I just watched a video whereby the man says that you could accelerate at a constant one g for 10 years and not reach the speed of light due to GR effects. I did a non-GR calculation and found that you would hit c at about one year. Could someone tell me specifically how GR affects this rate? Here's the vid, see the last 5 min.
 
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I don't think that you need GR to analyze this; SR is more than adequate as it can handle constant acceleration. For starters, you can't travel at the speed of light!

Here is a link (From the Problem Book in Relativity and Gravitation) with a similar http://apps.nrbook.com/relativity/index.html and solution. Type in page 14 for the problem and page 169 for the solution.

This should give you some idea of what's going here.
 
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As long as tidal gravity is not significant you can use SR only, there is no need to use GR in this scenario.

The first thing to understand is the difference between coordinate acceleration and proper acceleration. Proper acceleration is the amount of acceleration that you "feel", it is measured by an accelerometer. Coordinate acceleration is just the second time derivative of your position.

At any point in time there is a special reference frame called the momentarily comoving inertial frame. In that frame for that instant the proper acceleration equals the coordinate acceleration.

If you work out the math you find that curves of constant proper acceleration asymptotically approach c, but never reach or exceed it. As they get close to c the coordinate acceleration goes to 0.
 
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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.html has the equations of motion.

To get some insight, consider the Newtonian formula

[itex]v(\tau+d\tau) = v(\tau) + g*d\tau[/itex]

and replace the addition of velocities with the relativistic velocity addition formula

[tex]v_1 + v_2 = \frac{v_1+v_2}{1+v_1\,v_2/c^2}[/tex]

giving

[tex]v( \tau+d\tau ) = \frac{v(\tau) + g d\tau}{1+ (g/c^2)\,v(\tau)\,d\tau} \approx v(\tau) + \frac{g d\tau}{1-v^2(\tau)/c^2 }[/tex]

(The approximate answer can be derived with a taylor series, among other methods, using calculus).

You can use a spreadsheet or calculus to find [itex]v(\tau)[/itex] this way, and compare it to the exact known results in the sci.physics.faq.
Not that [itex]\tau[/itex] here is proper time, what the spaceship's clock measures.

If you are familiar with 4 velocites and 4-accelerations, MTW's textbook "Gravitation" has a more formal derivation.

It turns out that the 4-velocity is [itex][\cosh g\tau, \sinh g\tau][/itex]
while the 4-accleration is its derivative [itex] [g \sinh g\tau, g \cosh g\tau] [/itex]
and the 4-position its integral [itex][(1/g) \sinh g\tau, (1/g) \sinh g\tau + K] [/itex]

Once you know that the magnitude of the 4 velocity must be -1 (with MTW's sign convention), and the 4-acceleration must be perpendicular to the 4-velocity, plus the fact that the 4-acceleratio is just the derivative of the 4-velocity with respet to proper time [itex]\tau[/itex] its pretty easy to solve the equations of motion. Realizing why all of these are true will require some familiarity with 4-vectors and their application to relativity.

This sort of motion is also known as "hyperbolic motion", See the wiki
 
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I just watched a video whereby the man says that you could accelerate at a constant one g for 10 years and not reach the speed of light due to GR effects. I did a non-GR calculation and found that you would hit c at about one year.

You result is correct in a single frame of reference. The result in the video is correct, if velocity v and acceleration a are measured in different frames of reference - v in the original inertial rest frame and a in inertial frames moving with v.
 

FAQ: How does GR impact acceleration and reaching the speed of light?

What is the difference between GR and constant acceleration?

GR, or general relativity, is a theory that explains the effects of gravity on the curvature of spacetime. Constant acceleration, on the other hand, is a phenomenon where an object's velocity changes at a constant rate over time. While GR takes into account the effects of gravity on the curvature of spacetime, constant acceleration does not necessarily involve gravity and can be caused by other forces.

How does GR explain constant acceleration?

In GR, the presence of massive objects causes the curvature of spacetime, which in turn affects the motion of other objects. Therefore, in a constant acceleration scenario, the acceleration of an object can be explained by the curvature of spacetime caused by nearby massive objects. This is known as the Equivalence Principle in GR.

Can an object experience constant acceleration in a flat spacetime?

No, an object cannot experience constant acceleration in a flat spacetime. In a flat spacetime, there is no curvature, and therefore no gravity. Constant acceleration requires the presence of gravity, which is a result of the curvature of spacetime caused by massive objects.

How does constant acceleration affect time dilation in GR?

According to GR, time dilation occurs when an object is in a region with a strong gravitational field. This means that time will pass slower for an object experiencing constant acceleration due to the effects of gravity. However, this effect will be very small unless the object is accelerating at extremely high speeds, close to the speed of light.

Can GR be used to explain the acceleration of the expansion of the universe?

Yes, GR can be used to explain the acceleration of the expansion of the universe. In GR, the curvature of spacetime is directly related to the distribution of matter and energy in the universe. The presence of dark energy, which is thought to be responsible for the acceleration of the universe's expansion, can be explained by the presence of a cosmological constant in the equations of GR.

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