How Does Intrinsic Derivative Differ from Covariant Derivative in Geometry?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the difference between intrinsic (absolute) derivative and covariant derivative, and their geometric interpretations in the context of a manifold. The covariant/absolute derivative defines the notion of parallel transport on a manifold, allowing for the comparison of vectors at different points on a curve.
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What is it? and How different between intrinsic(absolute) derivative and covariant derivative?

What is its geometric interpretation?
 
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If on a manifold you have two vector fields V and W, then you can take the covariant derivative of V wrt W at every point in the manifold. The vector field W can also be thought of as a family of curves whose tangent vectors form W. The absolute derivative of V at any point on a particular curve in that family is the covariant derivative of V wrt W at that point in the curve.

The geometric idea is that in a vector space, there is an idea of two vectors being parallel. But on a manifold, there is a vector space at each point in the manifold, but there is no predefined notion of vectors at different points on a manifold being parallel. The covariant derivative/absolute derivative defines the notion of "parallel transport" that allows you to say if vectors at two nearby points on a curve are parallel or not.

I checked the definition on p377 of http://books.google.com/books?id=vQ...D+physics+geometry+liek&source=gbs_navlinks_s.
 
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An intrinsic derivative is a mathematical concept used in differential geometry to describe the rate of change of a geometric object without reference to an external coordinate system. It is a measure of how the object changes with respect to itself, rather than with respect to an external observer or coordinate system.

The intrinsic derivative is often referred to as the absolute derivative, as it is independent of any coordinate system. It takes into account the intrinsic properties of the object, such as its curvature and shape, and is not influenced by the way it is embedded in a larger space.

On the other hand, the covariant derivative is a derivative that takes into account both the intrinsic properties of the object and the external coordinate system it is embedded in. It is a more general concept that can be applied to objects that are not necessarily defined on a flat space, such as curved surfaces.

The geometric interpretation of the intrinsic derivative is that it describes the rate of change of a geometric object as it moves along its own surface. It can be thought of as a way to measure the object's "internal" changes, rather than its changes in relation to an external observer.

In summary, the main difference between the intrinsic and covariant derivatives is that the former is independent of any external coordinate system, while the latter takes into account both the intrinsic and extrinsic properties of the object. The intrinsic derivative has a more "internal" interpretation, while the covariant derivative combines both internal and external changes.
 

FAQ: How Does Intrinsic Derivative Differ from Covariant Derivative in Geometry?

What is intrinsic derivative?

Intrinsic derivative is a mathematical concept used in calculus to describe the rate of change of a function with respect to an independent variable. It is also known as the derivative with respect to arc length, as it measures the instantaneous rate of change along a curve or surface.

How is intrinsic derivative different from ordinary derivative?

Intrinsic derivative takes into account the curvature of a curve or surface, while ordinary derivative only considers the slope of a line tangent to the curve or surface at a specific point. Intrinsic derivative is also a vector quantity, while ordinary derivative is a scalar quantity.

What are the applications of intrinsic derivative?

Intrinsic derivative is used in various fields of science and engineering, such as physics, chemistry, and engineering, to study the behavior of curves and surfaces. It is particularly useful in analyzing the motion of objects in three-dimensional space and in describing the shape of a curve or surface.

How is intrinsic derivative calculated?

The formula for calculating intrinsic derivative depends on the dimension of the curve or surface. In one dimension, the formula is simply the ordinary derivative. In two dimensions, it involves the partial derivatives of the function with respect to the two variables. In three dimensions, it involves the gradient of the function. Higher dimensions require more complex mathematical concepts.

What are the limitations of intrinsic derivative?

Intrinsic derivative can only be calculated for smooth curves and surfaces, meaning that they have continuous and differentiable equations. It also cannot be calculated at points where the curve or surface has sharp turns or corners. Intrinsic derivative also does not take into account external factors such as friction and air resistance, which may affect the behavior of an object in motion.

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