How does one construct the action which gives the equation of motion?

In summary, constructing a suitable action that will give the correct equation of motion involves guessing and restricting choices based on desired symmetries. It is easier to impose symmetries on the Lagrangian rather than directly on the equations of motion. The final verification of the chosen action comes from experimentation. The assumption is that the system can be described by an action, but this may not always be the case. The fact that gravity acts like Newtonian gravity in the weak field limit limits the number of possible actions. Brans-Dicke gravity theories can also be expressed in action form, but experimental evidence has not found any evidence for an extra scalar field.
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I do not understand how people construct a suitable action which after variation will give the correct equation of motion. For example, the Einstein Hilbert action: S=integration[R d^4x] gives the equation of motion when varied with respect to [g_mu nu]. But no book I had read so far tells me how to construct this action. Can anybody help me with this?
Second, if someone says that the action is constructed so that after variation it must give the equation of motion then why do I need to use this technique in the first place where first I have to know the equation of motion and then construct the action, then vary it and rederive the equation of motion which I already had?
Third, how do I know that an action is the only action which will give the correct equation of motion?
 
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Actions are guessed. The possible choices are restricted by the symmetries you want your action to obey which automatically become symmetries of the equations of motion. It's much easier to impose symmetries (like Lorentz invariance) on the Lagrangian (a scalar function) than directly on the equations of motion. Only experiment is the final verification of your chosen action.

Of course the usual assumption is that your system is describable by action which doesn't have to be the case 100% of the time. Another assumption is that if your equations obey certain symmetry, your action has to obey it too but that is not true in general. It's true in the reverse direction - a symmetry of the action automatically becomes a symmetry of the equations of motion.
 
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The fact that gravity acts like Newtonian gravity in the weak field limit also vastly limits the number of possible actions.

I would think that Brans-Dicke gravity theories, for instance, could also be expressed in action form. (I haven't seen one written down, though, so I'm not positive). However, Brans-Dicke theory can be thought of as GR + an extra scalar field, and experimental evidence hasn't found any evidence of such a scalar field - i.e. Brans-Dicke has some adjustable parameters, and when the parameters of Brans-Dicke are adjusted to match experiment, it makes the same predictions that GR does. This doesn't rule out a scalar field, but basically means that it must be so small as to not have any known detectable effects.
 
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According to Wikipedia, Brans-Dicke theory does have an action:

[tex]S=\frac{1}{16\pi}\int d^4x\sqrt{-g} \; \left(\phi R - \omega\frac{\partial_a\phi\partial^a\phi}{\phi} + \mathcal{L}_\mathrm{M}\right)[/tex]

Although, I can't say I've seen it in a book. So I hope the appropriate pinch of salt is taken too.
 

FAQ: How does one construct the action which gives the equation of motion?

What is the equation of motion?

The equation of motion is a mathematical representation of the relationship between an object's position, velocity, and acceleration over time. It is typically used to describe the motion of objects in classical mechanics.

Why is it important to construct the action for the equation of motion?

The action is a fundamental quantity in physics that describes the dynamics of a system. By constructing the action for the equation of motion, we can determine the precise path that an object will take in space and time.

What is the role of Lagrangian mechanics in constructing the action?

Lagrangian mechanics is a mathematical framework that is used to describe the dynamics of a system in terms of its energy. It plays a crucial role in constructing the action, as the action is defined as the integral of the Lagrangian over time.

How do you construct the action for a given system?

To construct the action, one must first identify the Lagrangian for the system. This can be done by analyzing the forces and energies involved. The action is then calculated by integrating the Lagrangian over time.

What are some applications of the equation of motion and the constructed action?

The equation of motion and the constructed action have numerous applications in physics, including predicting the behavior of celestial bodies, designing spacecraft trajectories, and understanding the motion of particles in quantum mechanics. They are also used in engineering and design to optimize the performance of machines and structures.

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