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- Does a matrix have a dual?
How does one find the dual of a matrix?
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In the sense that,martinbn said:Dual in what sense?
Can you specify precisely how this dual matrix differs from the more familiar inverse matrix?grzz said:In the sense that,
dual matrix times matrix = number, maybe complex times (unit matrix).
Thanks for your help.renormalize said:Can you specify precisely how this dual matrix differs from the more familiar inverse matrix?
The dual matrix in the first sense is ill-defined. For example, if ##A## is a ##3\times 2## matrix, there does not exist an ##m\times n## matrix ##B## such that ##AB## is a number.grzz said:In the sense that,
dual matrix times matrix = number, maybe complex times (unit matrix).
There are many pairings that could be considered dual. A dual matrix to a matrix ##A## as a term isn't defined. You can transpose a matrix ##A^\dagger## , possibly invert a matrix ##A^{-1}##, conjugate complex matrices ##\overline{A},## or write ##A=\sum_{k=1}^r u_k\otimes v^*_k## and consider ##\sum_{k=1}^r u_k^*\otimes v_k## as its dual.grzz said:Thanks for your help.
But the trouble is that I never met with a dual matrix. All I know is that a dual matrix obeys the relation I gave in my 2nd post.
The cross product in ##\mathbb{R}^3## is a Lie product of a three-dimensional, real, simple Lie algebra. You can define several Lie products on ##\mathbb{R}^4## but none of them belongs to a simple Lie algebra. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that you don't even get all vectors as the result of such a product, i.e. some vectors cannot be retrieved as a result of the product.grzz said:Hence your reply fits what I was asking for.
Another query of mine is whether there is a cross product of 4-vectors like there is with 3-vectors.
Thanks so.much.
The answer depends on what properties of the 3-dimensional cross product you want preserved in higher dimensions. For definiteness, let's suppose ##n \ge 3## and there is a "cross product" on ##\mathbb{R}^n##, which we assume to be a continuous map ##\times : \mathbb{R}^n \times \mathbb{R}^n \to \mathbb{R}^n## such that the cross product of any two independent vectors is nonzero, and ##v\times w## is always orthogonal to ##v## and ##w##. Then ##n## must be either ##3## or ##7##. Indeed, one can show that the existence of a cross product in this sense implies the existence of a continuous multiplication on the ##n##-sphere ##S^n## that makes ##S^n## into an ##H##-space. It was proven by J. F. Adams that ##S^n## is an ##H##-space if and only if ##n = 0, 1, 3##, or ##7##.grzz said:Another query of mine is whether there is a cross product of 4-vectors like there is with 3-vectors.
Thanks so.much.
I am not familiar with Lie Algebra. But thanks any way.fresh_42 said:The cross product in ##\mathbb{R}^3## is a Lie product of a three-dimensional, real, ...
That's easy in this case. Look at https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/journey-manifold-su2-part-ii/#61-The-Pauli-Matrices. There are three matricesgrzz said:I am not familiar with Lie Algebra. But thanks any way.