How Does the 3D Harmonic Oscillator Model Extend from 1D Solutions?

In summary, the conversation discusses the solutions for a particle of mass m moving in a 3D potential and how they can be obtained by combining the solutions for a 1D harmonic oscillator and a 1D infinite potential well. The conversation also addresses the energies of the ground state and first excited state, taking into account the assumption that \hbar\omega>3\pi^2\hbar^2/(2ma^2).
  • #1
cscott
782
1

Homework Statement



Consider a particle of mass [itex]m[/itex] moving in a 3D potential

[tex]V(\vec{r}) = 1/2m\omega^2z^2,~0<x<a,~0<y<a[/tex].

[tex]V(\vec{r}) = \inf[/tex], elsewhere.

2. The attempt at a solution

Given that I know the solutions already for a 1D harmonic oscillator and 1D infinite potential well I'm going to combine them [itex]E_x + E_y + E_z = E[/itex], and [itex]\psi=\psi(z)\psi(x)\psi(y)[/itex] as for separation of variables of 3D Schrodinger.

Therefore,

[tex]E = (n_z+1/2)\hbar\omega + \frac{\pi^2\hbar^2}{2ma^2}(n_x^2+n_y^2)[/tex]

[tex]\psi=\left(\frac{m\omega}{\pi\hbar}\right)^{1/4}\frac{1}{\sqrt{2^{n_z}n_z!}}H_{n_z}(\zeta)e^{-\zeta^2/2}\sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}\sin\left(\frac{n_x\pi}{a}x\right)\sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}\sin\left(\frac{n_y\pi}{a}y\right)[/tex]

where [itex]H[/itex] are the Hermite polynomials and [tex]\zeta=\sqrt{m\omega/\hbar}z[/tex].

Is this a correct approach? I couldn't see how going all through the separation of variables for 3D Schrodinger would give me a different answer.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
You are correct (modulo some minor typos in your expression for psi).
 
  • #3
I believe I fixed the typo. Did I miss anything?

My OP was because the second part asks: Assuming [tex]\hbar\omega>3\pi^2\hbar^2/(2ma^2)[/tex] find the energies of the ground state and the first excited state, labeling by each state by its three quantum numbers.

And I don't see why this assumption needs to be made. Wouldn't I just sub into [itex]E[/itex],

[tex](n_x, n_y, n_z) = (1, 1, 0)[/tex] for the ground state and,

[tex](n_x, n_y, n_z) = (1, 1, 1)[/tex] for the first excited state?
 
  • #4
For the ground state, the assumption makes no difference. However, it has an effect for the first excited state.

The first excited state is defined as the state that is second lowest in energy.

If [tex]\hbar \omega[/tex] were to be very small, [tex](n_x, n_y, n_z) = (1, 1, 1)[/tex] would be second lowest in energy, and hence the first excited state.
However, if [tex]\hbar \omega[/tex] were to be very large, it can be possible for [tex](n_x, n_y, n_z) = (2, 1, 0)[/tex] to be lower in energy than [tex](n_x, n_y, n_z) = (1, 1, 1)[/tex] instead.
 
  • #5
Thanks, this makes sense now. I was too caught up thinking it had something to do with keeping the energy positive/negative.
 
  • #6
cscott said:
I believe I fixed the typo. Did I miss anything?
Nope! It all looks correct now.
 

FAQ: How Does the 3D Harmonic Oscillator Model Extend from 1D Solutions?

What is a 3D harmonic oscillator?

A 3D harmonic oscillator is a physical system that exhibits harmonic motion in three dimensions, similar to a pendulum swinging back and forth. It is characterized by a restoring force that is proportional to the displacement from equilibrium and a natural frequency.

What are some examples of 3D harmonic oscillators?

Some examples of 3D harmonic oscillators include a mass attached to a spring, a swinging pendulum, and a vibrating diatomic molecule.

How is the motion of a 3D harmonic oscillator described?

The motion of a 3D harmonic oscillator is described by a sinusoidal function, with the amplitude and frequency determined by the initial conditions and the system parameters.

What is the difference between a 3D harmonic oscillator and a simple harmonic oscillator?

A 3D harmonic oscillator is a generalization of a simple harmonic oscillator, which only exhibits motion in one dimension. A 3D harmonic oscillator can move in three dimensions, making it more complex.

How is the energy of a 3D harmonic oscillator related to its frequency?

The energy of a 3D harmonic oscillator is directly proportional to its frequency. This means that as the frequency increases, so does the energy of the system.

Back
Top