How does the proof of convergence for a series using halving steps work?

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof of convergence for a geometric series with a common ratio of 1/2. One person initially questions the convergence, but it is explained that it converges because the terms shrink too quickly. Different methods of proof are suggested, including grouping the terms into halves, but it is ultimately shown that the series converges to 2.
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I am not sure why the series converges.
It does not make sense, since I apparently could form halves from the terms recursively, similarly as for the proof of harmonic series' divergence.


How can you prove that the series converges?
 

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It's a geometric series with common ratio 1/2

That's why it converges
 
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soopo said:
It does not make sense, since I apparently could form halves from the terms recursively, similarly as for the proof of harmonic series' divergence.

Can you explicitly show this grouping into halves?
 
  • #4
Hi soopo! :smile:
soopo said:
… I apparently could form halves from the terms recursively, similarly as for the proof of harmonic series' divergence.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but if for example you call the sum A, then A/2 = A - 1 (the first term), so A/2 = 1 :wink:
How can you prove that the series converges?

Easiest way is to notice that the first n terms are 1 + … + xn-1, which you should recognise. :smile:
 
  • #5
slider142 said:
Can you explicitly show this grouping into halves?

You are right - it is hard to show that.

For example,

1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 = 13/32 < 16/32 = 1/2

By continuing similarly, I guess we can form another value which is close to an half, since the series goes to infinity.

However, I cannot find the second term which is close to a half, since it would require apparently much more terms than the second term.
This way, the third term also seems to be extremely difficult to be obtained.
 
  • #6
JG89 said:
It's a geometric series with common ratio 1/2

That's why it converges

True!

I know that the sum of geometric series is
S = a(1 - r^n) / (1 - r),
where r is not 1.

It can be easily obtained by considering to consider the series A and rA where

A = 1 + r + r^2 + ...

Then, substacting rA from A, we get

(1 - r)A =1 - [tex] r^{n + 1}[/tex],
since most of the terms in the middle cancel out.

If
-1 < r < 1, then r^n -> 0 as n -> infinity.
This gives us the sum of the series to be
S = a/(1 - r).

So my mistake was that I did not consider the series as a geometric series. I wanted to show that you can use a similar proof of harmonic series' divergence for the geometric series, since they both have same terms.

However, as we have seen, it is impossible to show that the geometric series diverges when |r| < 1. Thus, the series converges to 2.
 
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soopo said:
You are right - it is hard to show that.

For example,

1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 = 13/32 < 16/32 = 1/2

By continuing similarly, I guess we can form another value which is close to an half, since the series goes to infinity.

However, I cannot find the second term which is close to a half, since it would require apparently much more terms than the second term.
This way, the third term also seems to be extremely difficult to be obtained.

In fact, it cannot be obtained. ;) In order to group by halves, you would have to show a sum that is at least equal to a half, not less than a half. You have instead given a good argument for the sum to converge by showing an upper bound (with a little more rigor). As the others have posted, this is an example of a geometric series; the terms shrink "too fast" to reach the 1/2 and converge easily.
 
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This is how a (physics) Prof. in a class I attended a long time ago proved it. He said: Look, I'm standing here now and then he jumped and said: Now that's a big step of two meters. But I can cover the same distance by doing a step that covers half the distance, i.e. one meter and then another step of one meter.

But wait, I could just as well cut that second step of one meter in half and then two two steps of half a meter instead of one step of one meter. But that last step of half a meter can also be cut in half etc. etc. If we always do a step that is half of the distance we need to go, we'll reach the destination in the limit. So, we have:

2 = 1 + 1 = 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 = 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 = ...
 
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Count Iblis said:
This is how a (physics) Prof. in a class I attended a long time ago proved it. He said: Look, I'm standing here now and then he jumped and said: Now that's a big step of two meters. But I can cover the same distance by doing a step that covers half the distance, i.e. one meter and then another step of one meter.

But wait, I could just as well cut that second step of one meter in half and then two two steps of half a meter instead of one step of one meter. But that last step of half a meter can also be cut in half etc. etc. If we always do a step that is half of the distance we need to go, we'll reach the destination in the limit. So, we have:

2 = 1 + 1 = 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 = 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 = ...

Excellent analogy to the reverse direction!

Thank you for your answers!
 

FAQ: How does the proof of convergence for a series using halving steps work?

What is "convergence" for a series?

Convergence for a series refers to the behavior of the series as the number of terms approaches infinity. If the series approaches a specific value as the number of terms increases, it is said to converge. If the series does not approach a specific value, it is said to diverge.

How do you determine if a series converges or diverges?

There are several tests that can be used to determine if a series converges or diverges, such as the comparison test, ratio test, and integral test. These tests involve analyzing the behavior of the terms in the series and determining if they approach a specific value or if they become infinitely large or small.

What is the difference between absolute and conditional convergence?

Absolute convergence refers to a series where the individual terms are positive or the series is made up of absolute values. Conditional convergence refers to a series where the individual terms are both positive and negative. Absolute convergence is stronger than conditional convergence, as a series that absolutely converges will also conditionally converge, but the reverse is not necessarily true.

Can a series converge to a value other than 0?

Yes, a series can converge to a value other than 0. This is known as a convergent series. An example of this is the geometric series 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + ... which converges to the value of 1.

What is the significance of convergence for a series?

The convergence of a series is important in determining the behavior and properties of the series. A convergent series has a specific value that it approaches, which can be used to make predictions and calculations. Divergent series, on the other hand, can have unpredictable behavior and do not have a specific value that they approach. Understanding the convergence of a series is crucial in many mathematical and scientific applications.

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