How does the substitution in equations 3.2.4 and 3.2.5 work?

In summary: It should just look like this:-1*x=Ecmx=-EcmIn summary, these equations say that when you multiply a negative number by a positive number, the result is always the same as the classical case.
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I am not posting this in the homework section because it is not really a homework problem. Its from the schaum outline and I am stumped in this:

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I have NO idea about 3.2.4 and 3.2.5. Its black magic! How the hell does that substitution work?

Thanks
 
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In 3.2.4 they simply take the derivatives of x and X with respect to x1 and x2.

Example:

[tex]
\frac{\partial x}{\partial x_1}=\frac{\partial x_1-x_2}{\partial x_1}=\frac{\partial x_1}{\partial x_1}-\frac{\partial x_2}{\partial x_1}=1
[/tex]

Because x2 is a constant with respect to x1. The others go the same way. In 3.2.5 they use the chain rule.
 
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It's a simple partial derivative. It has nothing to do with the problem. You're looking at

[tex]\begin{array}{l}
x = x_1 - x_2 \\
X = \frac{{m_1 x_1 + m_2 x_2 }}{{m_1 + m_2 }} \\
\end{array}[/tex]

however the problem is stated in terms of [tex] x_1[/tex] and [tex]x_2[/tex]. You're simply switching to these new variable [tex] x [/tex] and [tex] X[/tex]. When you want to switch variable in a problem that involves derivatives, you'll need to determine how the derivatives act. What you're looking for is instead of [tex]\frac{\partial }{{\partial x_1 }}[/tex] and [tex]\frac{\partial }{{\partial x_2 }}[/tex], you're looking for [tex]\frac{\partial }{{\partial x}}[/tex] and[tex]\frac{\partial }{{\partial X}}[/tex]. Simple chain rule shows for example [tex]
\frac{\partial }{{\partial X}} = \frac{\partial }{{\partial x_1 }}\frac{{dx_1 }}{{dX}} + \frac{\partial }{{\partial x_1 }}\frac{{dx_2 }}{{dX}}
[/tex] which is about what's going on except you're going the other way and looking for the what [tex]\frac{\partial }{{\partial x_1}}[/tex] is and [tex]\frac{\partial }{{\partial x_2}}[/tex] is
 
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Multiply equation 14 by -1 on both sides, then plug the result into equation 13 to obtain equation 16.
 

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