How does this system work? (Four pulleys and a rope lifting a mass)

In summary, the conversation discussed the use of pulleys to reduce the force needed to lift a weight. The tension in the rope is the same throughout and the teacher summed up the tension forces of the vertical strings to find the value of force needed to balance the weight.
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Homework Statement
The masses of pulleys are negligible. What is the value of force F that keeps the block of weight 40 N in balance?
Relevant Equations
This system confuses me a lot. Our teacher just summed up all the tension forces of vertical strings, got 5F = 40, but can we really do that? If tension is the same everywhere, why isn't F = 40? Because all these strings aren't attached to the block itself I think. Could someone please explain how do systems like this actually work?
I used the regular way of solving problems with pulleys. I tried to find the tension forces, which must be the same in the rope, but I get it wrong
 
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Hello @zuzelle ,
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zuzelle said:
Homework Statement:: The masses of pulleys are negligible. What is the value of force F that keeps the block of weight 40 N in balance?
Relevant Equations:: This system ...

WHAT system ? Are we suposed to be telepathic ? Do you want us to guess ?

Please read and follow the PF guidelines

And show your work

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If tension is the same everywhere
So apparently it is not. Can you see why ?
[edit] hint: a free body diagram for the bottom pulley wheel ? For the top one ?

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Welcome @zuzelle !

The whole reason for using so many pulleys is to reduce the force needed to be applied at the end of the rope, which happens to be the value of the tension for any section of the going-around rope.

Just like it happens for a typical lever, that reduction of applied force is achieved by increasing the distance that the hand has to move respect to the distance the load moves upwards.

What you see in that diagram is basically a group of (rotating) levers simultaneously working.
 
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zuzelle said:
Our teacher just summed up all the tension forces of vertical strings, got 5F = 40,
Not exactly. Your teacher summed the five forces that the string wrapped around the pulleys exert on the lower pulley assembly. That excludes the string attached to the ceiling and the string attached to the weight.
Since it is all the same massless string, and can freely rotate the pulleys, the tension must be the same in each section.
 
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FAQ: How does this system work? (Four pulleys and a rope lifting a mass)

How do pulleys work to lift a mass?

Pulleys work by using a rope or cable to change the direction of the force needed to lift an object. With four pulleys, the weight of the mass is distributed evenly between them, making it easier to lift.

What is the advantage of using four pulleys instead of just one?

The advantage of using four pulleys is that it reduces the amount of force needed to lift the mass. With each additional pulley, the force required is divided by the number of pulleys, making it easier to lift heavy objects.

How does the rope stay in place on the pulleys?

The rope stays in place on the pulleys due to friction. The grooves on the pulley wheels help to grip the rope and prevent it from slipping off.

Can the direction of the force be changed with this system?

Yes, the direction of the force can be changed with this system. By adding more pulleys or changing the position of the pulleys, the direction of the force can be altered to lift the mass in different directions.

Is there a limit to how much weight can be lifted with this system?

Yes, there is a limit to how much weight can be lifted with this system. The weight that can be lifted depends on the strength of the rope and the pulleys, as well as the amount of friction between the rope and the pulleys. If the weight is too heavy, the rope may break or slip off the pulleys.

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