How High Does the Piston Rise in an Ideal Gas Problem?

In summary, the problem involves a cylinder filled with gas at a certain pressure and temperature, and a piston connected to a spring. The goal is to determine the height the piston will rise when the temperature is increased to a certain point, as well as the final pressure of the gas. The final volume and pressure can be calculated using the ideal gas equation and the force exerted by the spring on the piston.
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andrew410
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I think this is a ideal gas/ thermal expansion problem.

A cylinder is closed by a piston connected to a spring of constant 2*10^3 N/m. With the spring relaxed, the cylinder is filled with 5 L of gas at a pressure of 1 atm and a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius. a) If the piston has a cross-sectional area of 0.010 m^2 and negligible mass, how high will it rise when the temperature is raised to 250 degrees Celsius? b) What is the pressure of the gas at 250 degrees Celsius?

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I'm not sure where to start with this problem. Any help will be great.
Thanks! :smile:
 
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Assume the height for the piston to rise is h.

The final volume of the gas in the cylinder is V_i+A*h. From idea gas law, you could obtain the expression of the pressure P_f in terms of h.

The final pressure is also given by the expression 1 atm + k*h/A where k is the spring constant and A is the surface area of the piston.

Equate these two expressions of the final pressure, you could solve for the h. Once this has been solved, you could easily determine the final pressure of the gas in the cylinder.


Kenneth
 
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How did you get the formula for final volume and final pressure?
 
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When the piston has been risen by h, isn't it the volume of the gas has been increased by A*h? Recall that the volume of the cylinder is the surface area times the height.

The final pressure of the gas in the cylinder can be determined from the ideal gas equation: [tex]\frac{PV}{T}=\hbox{constant}[/tex]. At the condition of the equilibrium, the pressure inside the cylinder is the same as the one outside. The pressure outside is just the sum of the atmospheric pressure and the pressure acting on the piston by the spring. Recall that the pressure is defined by [tex]P=\frac{F}{A}[/tex] and the force exerted by the spring is given by [tex]F=kx[/tex] where x is the displacement of the spring.


Kenneth
 
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Ahh...I see now...I keep forgetting the basics...
Thank you very much! :smile:
 
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The answer I got was incorrect...The equation was:
[tex]\frac {RT} {V_{i}+Ah} = 101325 - \frac {kh} {A} [/tex]
I solved for h on the calculator and my answer was .502 m.
I changed the temperature to Kelvin and used 8.314 as R.
The mass was negligible so [tex]n[/tex] was gone.
Is there something I did wrong?
 
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Could anyone help me? I got to turn the homework in soon.
 

FAQ: How High Does the Piston Rise in an Ideal Gas Problem?

What is an Ideal Gas?

An ideal gas is a theoretical gas composed of particles that do not interact with each other and occupy negligible volume. This means that an ideal gas follows the gas laws (such as Boyle's Law and Charles' Law) perfectly and is used as a simplified model to understand the behavior of real gases.

What is the Ideal Gas Law?

The Ideal Gas Law is a fundamental equation in thermodynamics that relates the pressure, volume, temperature, and amount of an ideal gas. It is written as PV = nRT, where P is the pressure, V is the volume, n is the number of moles of gas, R is the gas constant, and T is the temperature.

How do you solve Ideal Gas problems?

To solve an Ideal Gas problem, you will need to use the Ideal Gas Law and plug in the given values for pressure, volume, temperature, and moles. Make sure to convert all units to the appropriate SI units and solve for the missing variable. You may also need to use the gas laws to manipulate the equation if the given information is not in the correct form.

What are the units for the Ideal Gas Law?

The units for the Ideal Gas Law are as follows: pressure (P) is in Pascals (Pa), volume (V) is in cubic meters (m3), temperature (T) is in Kelvin (K), and moles (n) is in moles (mol). The gas constant (R) can vary depending on the units used, but the most commonly used value is 8.314 J/mol·K.

What are some common applications of the Ideal Gas Law?

The Ideal Gas Law is commonly used in various fields such as chemistry, physics, and engineering. It is used to calculate the behavior of gases in various systems, such as in chemical reactions, industrial processes, and weather forecasting. It is also used in the design of gas storage tanks and in the production of compressed gases.

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