How is Angular Momentum Conserved in a System Without External Forces?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of angular momentum and how it is affected by changes in distance and velocity. It explains that according to the law of conservation of angular momentum, if the distance from the axis decreases, the linear velocity of the particle must increase. However, this seems to contradict the law of conservation of linear momentum, as a decrease in linear velocity would also result in a decrease in linear momentum. The conversation also provides an example of a planet's motion around the sun to illustrate this concept.
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vivinisaac
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angular momentum trouble!

since the angular momentum of a particle moving about a fixed point (axis) is given by
L=r X p= r X mv
where;
L=angular momentum
r= distance from the axis
p=linear momentum of the particle
m= mass of the particle
v= linear velocity of the particle

but if the distance 'r' decreases linear velocity 'v' should increase due to the law of conservation of angular momentum

but if linear velocity 'v' of the particle decreases then the linear momentum 'p' would also decrease , but this is against the law of conservation of linear momentum.(there is no external force acting on the system)

how is this possible .pls explain

there r no external force acting on the system including torque (friction is neglected)
eg. a planet revolving around the sun,as it comes closer to the sun its linear velocity increases bcuz angular momentum must be conserved but the increase in velocity means that its linear momentum wud increase
 
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Please give a specific example of what you're talking about. Angular momentum is only conserved in the absence of external torques; linear momentum is conserved only in the absence of external forces.
 
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vivinisaac said:
there r no external force acting on the system including torque (friction is neglected)
eg. a planet revolving around the sun,as it comes closer to the sun its linear velocity increases bcuz angular momentum must be conserved but the increase in velocity means that its linear momentum wud increase
In this case the system is "sun + planet". Neither the angular or linear momentum of the system changes. Of course, the planet's linear momentum changes as it nears the sun, but so does the sun's linear momentum; those changes are equal and opposite.
 

FAQ: How is Angular Momentum Conserved in a System Without External Forces?

What is angular momentum trouble?

Angular momentum trouble refers to a situation where there is a discrepancy between the expected angular momentum of a system and the actual angular momentum observed. This can be caused by various factors such as external forces, torque, or conservation of angular momentum principles.

What are some common causes of angular momentum trouble?

There are several common causes of angular momentum trouble, including external forces acting on a system, non-conservative forces or torques, and incorrect calculations or assumptions made in the analysis of the system.

How can angular momentum trouble be prevented or solved?

To prevent or solve angular momentum trouble, it is important to accurately consider all external forces and torques acting on the system and to apply the principles of conservation of angular momentum. Additionally, double-checking calculations and assumptions can help to identify any errors that may be causing the trouble.

What are some real-world examples of angular momentum trouble?

One example of angular momentum trouble is a spinning top that starts to wobble due to external forces such as air resistance or an uneven surface. Another example is a satellite in orbit that experiences changes in its angular momentum due to gravitational pull from other objects.

How does angular momentum trouble impact scientific research and understanding?

Angular momentum trouble can greatly impact scientific research and understanding as it can lead to incorrect conclusions or predictions about the behavior of a system. It is important for scientists to accurately account for angular momentum in their studies to ensure the validity of their findings.

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