How is the constant '4' handled in differentiation of $y=4\cos(x^3-2x)$?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the rule of differentiation that includes the constant '4' in the expression $y=4cos(x^3-2x)$ without modifying it. The rule states that if $y=c\cdot f(x)$, then the derivative of y is equal to c multiplied by the derivative of f(x). The conversation also addresses the difference between the symbols $\Rightarrow$ and $\rightarrow$ and clarifies the notation used in the differentiation rule.
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In the same vein as last question:

by what rule of differentiation does the constant '4' in the following expression, get included, unmodified, in the differentiation

$$y=4cos(x^3-2x) \Rightarrow y'=-4(3x^2-2).sin(x^3-2x)$$

A cross-wire in my mind wants to apply the rule:
$$y=c\Rightarrow y'=0, where, c=constant$$

Incidentally, I've searched and searched and can't find an explanation as to the logical/operational difference between the following:
$\Rightarrow$ and $\rightarrow$
Please explain,
thanks again (hellow Sudharaka)
DeusAbs
 
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$$ \frac{d}{dx} (c \times f(x)) = c \frac{d}{dx}(f(x))$$
 
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Hello, DeusAbscondus!
By what rule of differentiation does the constant '4' in the following expression,
get included, unmodified, in the differentiation

$y=4cos(x^3-2x) \Rightarrow y'=-4(3x^2-2)\sin(x^3-2x)$

One of the basic differentiation rules says:

If [tex]y \:=\:c\!\cdot\!f(x)[/tex], then [tex]\tfrac{dy}{dx} \:=\:c\!\cdot\!f'(x)[/tex]If you wish, you can use the Product Rule on: [tex]y \:=\:5\!\cdot\!x^3[/tex]

. . [tex]\frac{dy}{dx} \:=\:0\!\cdot\!x^3 + 5\!\cdot\!3x^2 \:=\:15x^2[/tex]I think you'll agree that it's a waste of time.
 
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Re: Contant/derivative: And what is the difference between the d/dx and dy/dx?

pickslides said:
$$ \frac{d}{dx} (c \times f(x)) = c \frac{d}{dx}(f(x))$$

Thanks PickSlides:
just to be sure I've understood:
Is that to say $$\frac{dy}{dx}(c\times f(x))=c\frac{dy}{dx}(f(x))$$

And hello, incidentally, from Lismore, NSW.

DeusAbs
 
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Yes, just ignore the constant term in the derivative and add it back in later.

I'm from Gowanbrae, VIC. Nice to meet ya!
 
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Deus, I'd just be more careful about the notation. Notice that pickslides wrote

$$\frac{d}{dx} (c \times f(x)) = c \frac{d}{dx}(f(x))$$

whereas you wrote

$$\frac{dy}{dx}(c\times f(x))=c\frac{dy}{dx}(f(x)).$$
There's a not so subtle difference: pickslides differentiated with respect to $x$, what you did was essentially multiply the function $c f(x)$ by a derivative $\frac{dy}{dx}$. It's not what you meant because of the context, but watch for how you write it. :)

Cheers.
 
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Fantini said:
Deus, I'd just be more careful about the notation. Notice that pickslides wrote

$$\frac{d}{dx} (c \times f(x)) = c \frac{d}{dx}(f(x))$$

whereas you wrote

$$\frac{dy}{dx}(c\times f(x))=c\frac{dy}{dx}(f(x)).$$
There's a not so subtle difference: pickslides differentiated with respect to $x$, what you did was essentially multiply the function $c f(x)$ by a derivative $\frac{dy}{dx}$. It's not what you meant because of the context, but watch for how you write it. :)

Cheers.

Thanks Fantini. But please, when you have a moment, explain the difference between the two notations more explicitly.
Appreciated.
DeusAbs
(I never dreamed when I hit upon my dog-latin nick, Deus Abscondus: ie: MissingGod or, God is Missing, that I would end up being addressed as Deus!)
 
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The first is applying the differentiation with respect to $x$ operator, whereas the second is the derivative of a function $y$ with respect to x being multiplied by $c f(x)$. Of course, I did not assume $y=f(x)$ to make it more explicit, and even if you do it doesn't change anything.

Also, I just went for something short (Thinking). I can call you Abs from now on.

Cheers.
 
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Fantini said:
I did not assume $y=f(x)$ to make it more explicit,

It's interchangeable in the equation.
 
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pickslides said:
It's interchangeable in the equation.

That's a relief: any more "things I don't understand" might have proven too much for my weakened self-confidence, which has taken a beating this week, so far.

Thanks mate,
DeusAbs
 

FAQ: How is the constant '4' handled in differentiation of $y=4\cos(x^3-2x)$?

What is a constant in a derivative?

A constant in a derivative is a numerical value that does not depend on the variable being differentiated with respect to. It is represented by the letter "C" and is added to the derivative equation to account for the unknown value of the constant.

How is a constant included in a derivative?

A constant is included in a derivative by adding it to the derivative equation. This constant is necessary because when a function is differentiated, the constant term is lost. By adding it back in, the derivative equation is more accurate and complete.

What is the purpose of a constant in a derivative?

The purpose of a constant in a derivative is to account for the unknown value of the constant term in the original function. It helps to make the derivative equation more accurate and complete, and is especially important when integrating the derivative back to the original function.

Can a constant be negative in a derivative?

Yes, a constant in a derivative can be negative. The constant can take on any numerical value, positive or negative, as long as it is a constant value that does not depend on the variable being differentiated with respect to.

How do you determine the value of a constant in a derivative?

The value of a constant in a derivative can be determined by using known points on the original function and the derivative equation. These points can be substituted into the derivative equation, along with the constant, and solved for the value of the constant.

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