How is the planet-star ratio determined using the transit method?

In summary, the transit method is one of the primary techniques used to determine the planet-star ratio. This method involves measuring the slight decreases in a star's brightness as a planet passes in front of it, known as a transit. By analyzing the size and duration of these transits, scientists can calculate the size and distance of the planet from its star, which then allows them to estimate the overall planet-star ratio of a given system. This method has been instrumental in the discovery of thousands of exoplanets and continues to be a valuable tool in understanding the distribution and properties of planets in our galaxy.
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I am currently studying the star Qatar-1 and its orbiting planet Qatar-1b on the Agent Exoplanet website: http://portal.lcogt.net/agentexoplanet/ where they are studying exoplanets and their transit times across their stars.

After going through a 130-image process of using calibrators to track the movement of the planet in its transit across its star, a "lightcurve" is produced (showing the dip in brightness when the transit occurred). From this, the website produces information from your lightcurve. My table of results can be viewed in the attachment.

What I am trying to ultimately do is to find out how they figured out the planet to star radius ratio to be 0.15. In text on their website, they say that they gained this information from my "lightcurve".

The lightcurve can be found on this webpage specifically: http://portal.lcogt.net/agentexoplanet/qatar1b/lightcurve/ , where they also show their formula on how they figure out the transit time. This formula is as follows:

[tex]t_t = \frac{P R*}{π a}[/tex]

Where:
[itex]t_t[/itex] is the transit time
R* is the star's radius
P is the orbital period
a is the orbital radius

I have tried emailing the website but am yet to receive a reply and am worried that I never will. Googling has given very few results and I my only theory is that it might have something to do with the drop in brightness during transit - but I am skeptical. If anybody has any idea how a star-planet ratio is determined, it would be most helpful. Thank you in advance!
 

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Note that to get just the ratio of radii, you don't have to work out the stellar disc's area. Just assume it's got a radius equal to 1, so the equation I provided reduces to basically taking the square root of the percentage drop in brightness. Here, 0.15 ~= √0.0236.
Simple as that.
 
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Thank you, Bandersnatch. That works perfectly. But do you mind me asking why we square root it?
 
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haruspex said:
That sounds very unusual. If two quantities have a quadratic relationship then percentage changes in them should be in the ratio 2:1, not also quadratic.

Bandersnatch's answer worked perfectly... So I don't think there's anything wrong there. I'm just confused as to why you square root it...?
 
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Tryingmybest said:
Bandersnatch's answer worked perfectly... So I don't think there's anything wrong there. I'm just confused as to why you square root it...?

Yes, I realized my misunderstanding and deleted the post - not quite quickly enough.
The percentage drop in brightness represents the planet's area (seen as a disc) as a fraction of the star's area. Since area varies as square of radius, the ratio of the areas is the square of the ratio of the radii.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, I realized my misunderstanding and deleted the post - not quite quickly enough.
The percentage drop in brightness represents the planet's area (seen as a disc) as a fraction of the star's area. Since area varies as square of radius, the ratio of the areas is the square of the ratio of the radii.

Thank you. That makes sense! Is Bandersnatch's equation in his first reply relevant?
 
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Tryingmybest said:
Thank you. That makes sense! Is Bandersnatch's equation in his first reply relevant?
You can get the "why the square root" from there.

[tex]\frac{L_o}{L}=\frac{πR_s^2-πR_p^2}{πR_s^2}[/tex]

So, since we are looking for the ratio of radii,

[tex]α=\frac{R_p}{R_s}[/tex]

we can substitute α*Rs for Rp and solve for α, which gives

[tex]α=\sqrt{1-\frac{L_o}{L}}[/tex]
 

FAQ: How is the planet-star ratio determined using the transit method?

What is the Planet-Star Ratio Method?

The Planet-Star Ratio Method is a technique used by astronomers to detect and study exoplanets, or planets outside of our solar system. It involves measuring the amount of light from a star and observing any changes in brightness caused by the presence of orbiting planets.

How does the Planet-Star Ratio Method work?

This method relies on the principle that when a planet passes in front of its host star, it blocks a small portion of the star's light, causing a temporary decrease in brightness. By measuring these changes in brightness, scientists can infer the presence and characteristics of orbiting exoplanets.

What are the advantages of using the Planet-Star Ratio Method?

The Planet-Star Ratio Method is advantageous because it is sensitive to a wide range of planet sizes and can detect planets that are relatively far away from their host stars. It is also relatively inexpensive and can be used to study a large number of stars simultaneously.

What are the limitations of the Planet-Star Ratio Method?

One limitation of this method is that it can only detect exoplanets that transit, or pass in front of, their host stars from our vantage point on Earth. This means that not all exoplanets will be detected using this method, and it may underestimate the true number of exoplanets in our galaxy.

How is the data from the Planet-Star Ratio Method analyzed?

After collecting data on the changes in brightness of a star, scientists use mathematical models to analyze and interpret the data. This allows them to determine the size and orbital characteristics of the exoplanet, such as its distance from the star and its orbital period. Additional observations and data from other methods may also be used to confirm the findings from the Planet-Star Ratio Method.

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