How long would it take to cook twice the amount of beans?

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In summary, the article discusses how it would take longer to cook a twice as big turkey using geometric scaling. It states that one stage of cooking requires more heat than the other stage, and that you would need toevaluate the results numerically.
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I was reading this article from the exploratorium museum about how longer it would take to cook a twice as big turkey. According to geometric scaling it would take 2*1.26/1.59 = 1.59 times longer, derived from here:

If I double the weight of the turkey:
The volume, a three-dimensional quantity, gets bigger by a factor of
2**3/3 = 2.00

The surface area, a two-dimensional quantity, gets bigger by a factor of
2**2/3 = 1.59

The distance to the center, a one-dimensional quantity, gets bigger by a factor of
2**1/3 = 1.26

I was wondering if the same would apply when cooking a pot of beans or if we should take into account each individual bean surface instead (which would leave the surface area factor at 2, then cancel the volume factor, and leave the cooking time factor at 1.26x)
 
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kaleidoscope said:
I was wondering if the same would apply when cooking a pot of beans or if we should take into account each individual bean surface instead (which would leave the surface area factor at 2, then cancel the volume factor, and leave the cooking time factor at 1.26x)

I have a pot of beans that I know need - say - 1.5 hours cooking. I take same amount of beans, I put them in separate pot, and I cook them also. Will it take any longer, or will both pots be ready at the same time?
 
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Borek said:
I have a pot of beans that I know need - say - 1.5 hours cooking. I take same amount of beans, I put them in separate pot, and I cook them also. Will it take any longer, or will both pots be ready at the same time?

Ok, it takes 1.5 hours to cook your pot. Now you put twice as many beans in your pot and cook them, how long will it take now?
 
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There is also the factor of the actual power available. It is true that an oven full of stuff often doesn't reach the same temperature, even, as it will with one pot.
This is particularly true when using a microwave oven, which uses most of its power on heating the target food rather than the oven and the room.
I think the '20 minutes per 500g plus 20 minutes' (and don't forget to include the stuffing, which has a lot of water in it) works pretty well and you can't afford to undercut that value by much or your poultry may have a pink inside. So there is a lot of empirical truth in what they say.
The Physics of it just isn't that simple, I fear. :devil:
 
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This is in a way similar to difference between intensive and extensive properties.

Cooking of beans has two stages - first, you have to bring the pot to boil. Then you have to wait till beans cook. One of the stages requires amount of heat that depends on the amount of water and beans, amount of heat in the other stage doesn't depend on the amount of water and beans. Can you say which is which? Can you say - assuming constant speed of delivering the heat - length of which stage depends on the amount of beans?
 
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This is typically something you want to evaluate numerically, for instance with Comsol Multiphysics. However, the accuracy of your results would still be limited by estimated values of for material properties like the thermal conductivity.
 

FAQ: How long would it take to cook twice the amount of beans?

How long would it take to cook twice the amount of beans compared to the original amount?

The cooking time for twice the amount of beans will depend on the type of beans and the method of cooking. Generally, it will take longer to cook twice the amount of beans as it will take more time for the heat to penetrate and cook all the beans evenly.

Can I simply double the cooking time to cook twice the amount of beans?

No, it is not recommended to double the cooking time. It is important to follow the recommended cooking time for the type of beans you are using. Doubling the cooking time may result in overcooked or mushy beans.

3. Will using a larger pot or more water affect the cooking time for twice the amount of beans?

Using a larger pot or more water will not significantly affect the cooking time. However, it is important to make sure there is enough water to cover the beans and that the pot is not overcrowded to allow for even cooking.

4. Can I reduce the cooking time by increasing the heat when cooking twice the amount of beans?

No, it is not recommended to increase the heat to reduce the cooking time. This may result in uneven cooking and may also cause the beans to burn or become too soft.

5. Is there a general rule for calculating the cooking time for twice the amount of beans?

There is no specific rule for calculating the cooking time for twice the amount of beans. It is important to follow the recommended cooking time for the type of beans and adjust as needed based on the cooking method and the size of the pot.

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