How Many Ways Can You Arrange 3 Birds to Feed if Two Don't Get Along?

In summary, the problem involves selecting combinations of 3 birds from a group of 7, with the restriction that 2 of the birds cannot be selected together. The correct solution is C(7,3)-C(2,2)*C(5,1), representing the total number of combinations minus the number of times the two restricted birds are together. This is because the two restricted birds must be selected together, leaving only 5 remaining birds to be selected in the third spot. The order of selection does not matter in this problem.
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Homework Statement


You have 7 birds lined up to feed. Only 3 birds can feed at a time. Two of the 7 birds do not like to feed with each other. How many combinaions can be formed?

Homework Equations


C(n,k)=n!/k!(n-k)!

The Attempt at a Solution


Attempted solution
C(7,3)-C(7,2)=21.


That is the wrong answer. The correct answer is C(7,3)-C(2,2)*C(5,1)=5

Can someone explain this to me? Thanks. My thinking was 7 choose 3 minus 7 choose the two birds that don't like to mix. Subtract and you'll get the birds that mix. Obviously its wrong -_-. Thanks for your help in advance.
 
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C(7,3) is clear.
Then you must subtract the number of times when the two birds are with each other. You must fix these two birds - that is where C(2,2) comes from (ie, these is only 1 way to select these two birds). The C(5,1) term comes from the fact that after you have selected these two birds, you must pick 1 last one so you have 3 on the feeding line.

Also, note that if 3 is the maximum number of birds allowed on the feeding line, then you can still consider situations when there are just 1 and 2 birds (respectively) on the line.
 
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VeeEight said:
C(7,3) is clear.
Then you must subtract the number of times when the two birds are with each other. You must fix these two birds - that is where C(2,2) comes from (ie, these is only 1 way to select these two birds). The C(5,1) term comes from the fact that after you have selected these two birds, you must pick 1 last one so you have 3 on the feeding line.

Also, note that if 3 is the maximum number of birds allowed on the feeding line, then you can still consider situations when there are just 1 and 2 birds (respectively) on the line.

Ah ok, thanks. I was thinking order mattered and all, but now its clear order doesn't matter. There is only one way to choose the two birds. Then the 3rd combination is the combinations with the other 5 birds. Thanks a bunch for clearing it up.
 

FAQ: How Many Ways Can You Arrange 3 Birds to Feed if Two Don't Get Along?

What is a simple combination?

A simple combination is a mathematical concept where a group of items is selected from a larger set without any specific order. It is also known as a combination without repetition.

How do I calculate the number of simple combinations?

The number of simple combinations can be calculated using the formula nCr = n!/(r!(n-r)!), where n represents the total number of items in the set and r represents the number of items chosen. Alternatively, you can use a combination calculator or a combination table to determine the number of combinations.

What is the difference between permutations and combinations?

Permutations and combinations are both ways of selecting items from a set, but the main difference is that permutations take into account the order of the items, while combinations do not. In other words, the order of the items in a permutation matters, but not in a combination.

How can I use simple combinations in real life?

Simple combinations can be used in many real-life scenarios, such as choosing a team for a sports competition or selecting a committee for a project. They can also be used in probability calculations, such as determining the chances of winning a lottery or predicting the outcomes of a series of events.

What are some common mistakes to avoid when working with simple combinations?

One common mistake is confusing combinations with permutations. It is important to understand the difference between the two concepts. Another mistake is not considering all possible combinations or forgetting to account for repetitions. It is also important to double-check calculations to avoid errors.

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