How Strong Can the Magnetic Field in a Solenoid Be Before the Wire Breaks?

In summary, according to the student, the radial force due to tension on a short length of wire when subjected to an outward magnetic force is approximately 2Tsin(dl/2r).
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Opus_723
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Homework Statement



First, I will describe the solenoid referenced, as it is from another problem.

The solenoid is made by winding a single layer of No. 14 copper wire on a cylindrical form 6cm in diameter. There are 5 turns per centimeter and the length of the solenoid is 30cm. Consulting wire tables, we find that No. 14 copper wire has a diameter of 0.163cm and a resistance of 0.010 ohms per meter at 75°C.

Now here is the problem I'm working on.

Suppose the solenoid described is used to make a very strong field for a very short time by connecting it briefly to a high-voltage source, to force an enormous current through it. Putting all other limitations aside, consider the limit imposed by the tensile strength of the wire. The magnetic pressure, like pressure in a hose, will tend to split the solenoid open. If the tensile strength of the wire is 2*10[itex]^{9}[/itex] dynes/cm[itex]^{2}[/itex], what is the strongest magnetic field that could be contained in that solenoid

The answer is given as 35 kilogauss.

Homework Equations



For the field along the axis of a solenoid: [itex]\frac{2\pi*In}{10}[/itex](cos[itex]\theta_{1}-cos\theta_{2}[/itex])

Force on a current-carrying wire: [itex]\frac{I\vec{dl}\times\vec{B}}{10}[/itex] = [itex]\vec{dF}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I decided to express current in terms of the magnetic field, since current is not given.

I = [itex]\frac{10B}{2\pi*n(cos\theta_{1}-cos\theta_{2})}[/itex]

I'm using the field along the axis of the solenoid, although I know it will be weaker at the rim where the wires are, because that's all I know how to do, and all that's ever been done in the book I'm using (Purcell).

Then I plugged in the above for I in the force equation, also noting that the current and magnetic field are perpendicular, assuming that the loops are perfectly circumferential (they're obviously not, but I checked the angle, and the error introduced to the cross product seems to be less than .2%). I also divided the expression by 2 since the force on the wire will be due to the average field acting on the wire. Since the field is approximately zero outside the solenoid, I used half the axial field.

[itex]\frac{B^{2}(dl)}{4\pi*n(cos\theta_{1}-cos\theta_{2})}[/itex] = dF

So this is the radial force acting on an infinitesimal length of wire (I think).

And then I have no clue what to do next. I've been trying to derive an expression for tension in terms of radial force on a loop, but I'm not making much progress. Am I totally approaching this wrong?
 
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Hi Opus_723! :smile:
Opus_723 said:
… I've been trying to derive an expression for tension in terms of radial force on a loop …

(i haven't checked the rest of your work, but …)

to find the tension, do a free body diagram for a short arc of angle dθ …

there'll be two tension forces at either end, and the radial force (which you can treat as constant over the arc) in the middle :wink:
 
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Of course! Thanks. I'll try the numbers when I get home, but let me check the reasoning with you now.

Let's call the line perpendicular to the outward magnetic force and tangent to the loop in the plane of the loop the horizontal. The tension forces at each end of a segment of wire, due to the curvature of the wire, will make an angle with this horizontal. Geometrically, I think that this angle is half the angle subtended by the wire segment. By symmetry, the non-inward components cancel out when the tension at each end is added together. So the net force due to the tension is 2Tsin(dθ/2), where T is the tension force at one end. Since dθ = dl/r, this becomes 2Tsin(dl/2r). And since it is a very small angle, we can approximate this as [itex]\frac{T*dl}{r}[/itex]. I approximate it so that when I set this expression equal to my outward force expression (Until the maximum tension is reached, the wire does not move, so the net force is zero) the infinitesimal dl will drop out.

Does that all seem good? Like I said, I'll check the numbers in a few hours to see if I have the right answer.
 
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(just got up :zzz:)

yes, that's fine! :smile:
 
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I would like to first commend you for your thorough attempt at solving the problem. Your approach is correct in using the force equation and expressing current in terms of magnetic field. However, you are correct in stating that the force on an infinitesimal length of wire is not the same as the tension in the wire.

To find the tension in the wire, we need to consider the entire solenoid as a whole, rather than just an infinitesimal length. We can use the concept of magnetic pressure to determine the tension in the wire. Magnetic pressure is defined as the force per unit area exerted by a magnetic field on a surface perpendicular to the field lines. In this case, the surface we are considering is the cross-sectional area of the solenoid.

Using the expression for magnetic pressure, we can equate it to the force on the wire. This will give us an expression for the tension in the wire.

Magnetic pressure = \frac{B^2}{2\mu_0}

Force on the wire = \frac{B^2(dl)}{4\pi*n(cos\theta_1 - cos\theta_2)}

Setting these two equal to each other and rearranging for B, we get:

B = \sqrt{\frac{2\mu_0(dl)}{4\pi*n(cos\theta_1 - cos\theta_2)}}

Now, we can use the given tensile strength of the wire to find the maximum magnetic field that can be contained in the solenoid without breaking the wire. Setting the tension in the wire equal to the tensile strength, we can solve for B.

Tension in the wire = 2*10^9 dynes/cm^2 = \frac{B^2(dl)}{4\pi*n(cos\theta_1 - cos\theta_2)}

Solving for B, we get:

B = \sqrt{\frac{8\pi*n*10^9 dynes/cm^2}{dl(cos\theta_1 - cos\theta_2)}}

Plugging in the values for d and l from the given information, we get:

B = \sqrt{\frac{8\pi*5*10^9 dynes/cm^2}{0.163cm*30cm(cos\theta_1 - cos\theta_2)}}

Simplifying, we get:

B = \sqrt{\frac{8\pi*
 

Related to How Strong Can the Magnetic Field in a Solenoid Be Before the Wire Breaks?

1. What is magnetic pressure in a solenoid?

Magnetic pressure in a solenoid is the force exerted by the magnetic field on the walls of the solenoid. It is caused by the interaction of the magnetic field with the current flowing through the solenoid.

2. How is magnetic pressure calculated in a solenoid?

Magnetic pressure in a solenoid can be calculated using the formula P = B^2/(2μ0), where B is the magnetic field strength and μ0 is the permeability of free space.

3. What factors affect the magnetic pressure in a solenoid?

The magnetic pressure in a solenoid is affected by the strength of the magnetic field, the number of turns in the solenoid, and the current flowing through the solenoid. It is also affected by the permeability of the material inside the solenoid and the distance between the walls of the solenoid.

4. How does magnetic pressure impact the functioning of a solenoid?

Magnetic pressure plays a crucial role in the functioning of a solenoid. It creates a force that can move objects, such as a piston or a plunger, in or out of the solenoid. It also helps to maintain the shape and stability of the solenoid.

5. Can magnetic pressure be controlled in a solenoid?

Yes, magnetic pressure in a solenoid can be controlled by varying the current flowing through the solenoid or by adjusting the number of turns in the solenoid. It can also be controlled by using materials with different permeability inside the solenoid.

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