How to Arrange Bases in Order of Their Tendency to Combine with Protons?

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In summary, the conversation discusses arranging bases in order of their tendency to combine with protons. The hint given suggests separating the bases into ionic and molecular compounds to determine strong and weak bases. It is mentioned that strong bases are strong electrolytes and separating them into subgroups can make problem-solving easier. However, there is some confusion about the placement of OH- and Br- on the basicity scale and the conversation ends with a lighthearted reminder that making mistakes is a part of learning.
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Arrange the following bases in order of their tendency to combine with protons, putting the strongest base first:
NH3, H2O, OH-, CH3COO- (acetate ion), Br-.
NH3 Kb = 1.8 X 10-5
CH3COOH Ka = 1.8 X 10-5
 
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First of all, do you know the definition of strong bases vs. weak bases? Hint: separate the ionic compounds from the molecular compounds, and go from there.
 
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I am not sure how this hint is going to work. But starting with definition will definitely help.

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I meant that strong bases are strong electrolytes, so separating them into ionic and molecular will give two groups, one of strong bases and one of weak. For me, it's easier to break things down into subgroups like this. Also, this is the best advice I could think to give, since pKa doesn't seem to be mentioned.
 
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OK, I have classified both Br- and OH- as strong electolytes, does it mean they will be both on the same end of 'basicity' scale?

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I see what you mean. My mistake. I'm still learning some of this myself, and I suppose what I said wasn't the best way to go about this problem. Sorry about that, disregard what I said before.
 
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Don't worry, the only way to not make any mistakes is to not do anything

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