How to Calculate the Attraction Between Two Solenoids in Series?

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In summary, the conversation is about calculating the attraction between two solenoids in series with a space between them. The suggested equation for attraction is based on the force between cylindrical bar magnets, but it has been deemed inappropriate. Instead, the suggestion is to use the formula for the force between two parallel wires with currents. Another suggestion is to use a continuous integration with a winding density to get more accurate results. More input is welcome.
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I have been asked to calculate the attraction between two solenoids that are positioned in 'series' N-S N-S and have a space 'x' between them.

I tried to approximate the attraction between them by using the equation for attraction between cylinderical bar magnets:


F=\left[\frac {B_0^2 A^2 \left( L^2+R^2 \right)} {\pi\mu_0L^2}\right] \left[{\frac 1 {x^2}} + {\frac 1 {(x+2L)^2}} - {\frac 2 {(x+L)^2}} \right]

where

B0 is the magnetic flux density very close to each pole, in T,
A is the area of each pole, in m2,
L is the length of each magnet, in m,
R is the radius of each magnet, in m, and
x is the separation between the two magnets, in m

(its from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_between_magnets)

I have been told this is not an appropriate equation. Can anyone help me understand why, and what I should do instead?

Any advice much appreciated.


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Forgot to mention, I know the size of solenoids and the flowing current so I could calculate the magnetic field size to use in the bar magnet equation.
 
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My stab at it:

Each solenoid has N turns. Using the formula for the force between two parallel wires carrying currents iA and iB, take the loop of solenoid A closest to solenoid B and determine the force between it and the closest loop of solenoid B. Then take the closest loop of A and get the force between it and the second-closest loop of B, etc. Then repeat for all the loops of A.

You don't want a discrete formula so assume a winding density of n turns/unit length and do a continuous integration.

Hopefully you'll get other suggestions. Not sure this is the best way to proceed.
 
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FAQ: How to Calculate the Attraction Between Two Solenoids in Series?

What is the attraction between two solenoids?

The attraction between two solenoids is the force that pulls them towards each other due to their magnetic fields interacting.

How is the attraction between two solenoids calculated?

The attraction between two solenoids can be calculated using the equation F = (μ0 * n1 * n2 * A) / (2 * l), where μ0 is the permeability of free space, n1 and n2 are the number of turns in each solenoid, A is the cross-sectional area, and l is the length of the solenoids.

What factors affect the strength of attraction between two solenoids?

The strength of attraction between two solenoids is affected by the number of turns in each solenoid, the cross-sectional area, and the distance between the solenoids. It is also affected by the permeability of the material that the solenoids are made of.

Is the attraction between two solenoids always attractive?

No, the attraction between two solenoids can be either attractive or repulsive depending on the orientation of the solenoids. If the currents in the solenoids are in the same direction, the attraction will be attractive. If the currents are in opposite directions, the attraction will be repulsive.

Can the attraction between two solenoids be used in any practical applications?

Yes, the attraction between two solenoids can be used in various practical applications, such as in electromagnets, electric motors, and generators. It is also used in devices such as relays and solenoid valves.

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