How to count the degree of freedom?

In summary, the degree of freedom in ADM gravity can be counted by taking into account the 6 independent components of q_{ab}, 4 constraints, and the lapse and shift variables. This results in 4 relevant local phase space variables. In the Lagrangian viewpoint, the spacetime metric has (D+1)(D+2)/2 local degrees of freedom, but (D+1)(D+2)/2 - 2(D+1) of these are pure tensorial and dependent on choice of coordinate system. After considering the active diffeomorphism freedom, this results in (D+1)(D-2)/2 phase space variables, or 4 in the case of four dimensions. The first class constraint
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kakarukeys
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Please tell me how to count the degree of freedom in ADM gravity.

6 independent components of [tex]q_{ab}[/tex],
and 4 constraints
= 2 degrees of freedom

shouldn't it be
6 independent components of [tex]q_{ab}[/tex]
implies 12 phase space variables
4 constraints
=8 phase space variables
=4 degrees of freedom?
 
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Convention. How many degrees of freedom does a particle on a line have? one, but two phase space variables.
 
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I asked why 4 constraints mean 4 degrees of freedom are deducted? (that's 8 phase space variables!) It seems only 4 phase space variables become dependent on each other by 4 constraints.
 
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kakarukeys said:
I asked why 4 constraints mean 4 degrees of freedom are deducted? (that's 8 phase space variables!) It seems only 4 phase space variables become dependent on each other by 4 constraints.
Hi, in the Hamiltonian formulation one has the canonical variables q_ab and p_ab which determine 12 local degrees of freedom and have to satisfy 4 constraints, so 8 remain. However, one has to take into account the lapse and shift variables (originating from the choice of foliation). Those - contracted with the constraints - generate 4 gauge transformations which correspond with the lie derivative of those phase space variables which satisfy the constraints in the direction of the associated vectorfield. Since the dirac algebra closes, no further constraints arise and therefore 8 - 4 = 4 (vectorfields determine 4 local degrees of freedom) local phase space variables are relevant. Note that in three spacetime dimensions, the counting would be 3+3 = 6 phase space variables satisfying 3 constraints and 3 gauge transformations -> gravity is topological. In general, for a D+1 dimensional spacetime : D(D+1) phase space variables - 2(D+1) coming from constraints and gauge trans = (D-2)(D+1) phase space variables.

At the level of the spacetime metric (Lagrangian viewpoint) : you have (D+1)(D+2)/2 local degrees of freedom. Now, (D+1) degrees of freedom are pure tensorial, that means dependent upon choice of a local coordinate system. Once you have chosen one particular system, you still have the active diffeomorphism freedom: that is you can consider mappings shifting up spacetime points, these represent again D+1 local degrees of freedom. In total (D+1)(D+2)/2 - 2(D+1) = (D+1)(D-2)/2. In four d, these are the so called 2 graviton degrees of freedom. Since these obey hyperbolic (second order) partial differential equations, this results in 4 phase space variables.

Cheers,

Careful
 
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A bit more abstractly then Careful's answer:

kakarukeys said:
I asked why 4 constraints mean 4 degrees of freedom are deducted? (that's 8 phase space variables!) It seems only 4 phase space variables become dependent on each other by 4 constraints.

Correct, but first class constraint means two things:
1: C = 0
2: {C, O} = 0

That's basically two unknowns, on the constraintsurface where condition one holds you ALSO have to compute gaugeorbits which imply condition 2.
The space of physical states is characterized by equivalence classes of points on the contstraint surface.

Quantum mechanically your wavefunction depends only on x not on p, it's on configuration space not phase space, and therefore implementing the first condition already implies the second one in some precisely definable sense.
 
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:approve:
thank you.
 

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1. How do I determine the number of degrees of freedom in a system?

The number of degrees of freedom in a system is equal to the total number of independent variables that can be varied without affecting the overall state of the system. This can be calculated by subtracting the number of constraints or restrictions in the system from the total number of variables.

2. What is the significance of degrees of freedom in statistical analysis?

Degrees of freedom play a critical role in determining the accuracy and reliability of statistical results. They represent the number of independent pieces of information available for estimating a parameter or making a statistical inference.

3. Can the number of degrees of freedom change in a system?

Yes, the number of degrees of freedom in a system can change if the constraints or variables in the system are altered. For example, if a new constraint is added or an existing one is removed, the number of degrees of freedom will be affected.

4. How does the number of degrees of freedom relate to the complexity of a system?

The number of degrees of freedom is directly related to the complexity of a system. A system with a higher number of degrees of freedom is considered to be more complex, as it has more variables that can independently impact the overall state of the system.

5. Can a system have an infinite number of degrees of freedom?

No, a system cannot have an infinite number of degrees of freedom. It is limited by the number of variables and constraints present in the system. However, in some cases, the number of degrees of freedom may be very large, making it appear to be infinite for practical purposes.

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