How to Derive Commutator Relations in the Poincare Lie Algebra?

In summary, Lorentz transformation x'^{\mu} = \Lambda^{\mu}_{\nu}x^{\nu},\Lambda is a 4x4 matrix such that xy is Lorentz invariant.xy = \eta_{\mu\nu}x^{\mu}y^{\nu} = x'y' = \eta_{\mu\nu}\Lambda^{\mu}_{\rho}x^{\rho}\Lambda^{\nu}_{\sigma}y^{\sigma}\eta_{\mu\nu} = \eta_{\rho\sigma}\lambda^{\r
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Given [M[itex]^{\mu \nu}[/itex],M[itex]^{\rho\sigma}[/itex]] = -i([itex]\eta^{\mu\rho}M^{\nu\sigma}+\eta^{\nu\sigma}M^{\mu\rho}-\eta^{\mu\sigma}M^{\nu\rho}-\eta^{\nu\rho}M^{\mu\sigma}[/itex])

and [[itex] P^{\mu},P^{\nu}[/itex]]=0

I need to show that

[M[itex]^{\mu\nu},P^{\mu}[/itex]] = i[itex]\eta^{\mu\rho}P^{\nu} - i\eta^{\nu\rho}P^{\mu}[/itex]
We've been given the following as a 'hint':

Lorentz transformation [itex]x'^{\mu} = \Lambda^{\mu}_{\nu}x^{\nu}[/itex],
[itex]\Lambda[/itex] is a 4x4 matrix such that xy is Lorentz invariant.

xy = [itex]\eta_{\mu\nu}x^{\mu}y^{\nu} = x'y' = \eta_{\mu\nu}\Lambda^{\mu}_{\rho}x^{\rho}\Lambda^{\nu}_{\sigma}y^{\sigma}[/itex]

[itex]\eta_{\mu\nu} = \eta_{\rho\sigma}\lambda^{\rho}_{\mu}\Lambda^{\sigma}_{\nu}[/itex] (every Lambda solving this is a Lorentz transformation),

[itex]\Lambda^{\mu}_{\nu} = \delta^{\mu}_{\nu}+\eta^{\mu\rho}\omega_{\rho\nu}[/itex]

[itex]\delta x^{\mu} = \eta^{\mu\rho}\omega_{\rho\nu} x^{\nu}[/itex]

--> [itex]\omega_{\mu\nu} = - \omega_{\nu\mu}[/itex]

Then [itex]\delta x^{\mu} = i \omega_{\rho\sigma}(M^{\rho\sigma})^{\mu}_{\nu} x^{\nu}[/itex]

Then have two expressions for [itex]\delta x[/itex].My problem is basically that I do not see the relation between the question and the 'hint'. Presumably we can substitute something from the hint into the commutator we want to calculate, right? But what?Then we are also asked to find differential operators M such that

[itex]\delta x^{\mu} = \eta^{\mu\rho}\omega_{\rho\nu} x^{\nu}.[/itex]

We are given the answer:

[itex](M^{\rho\sigma})^{\mu}_{\nu} = L^{\rho\sigma}\delta^{\mu}_{\nu}[/itex]

where

[itex] L^{\rho\sigma} = i (x^{\rho}∂^{\sigma} - x^{\sigma}∂^{\rho})[/itex] and [itex]P^{\mu} = -i∂^{\mu}[/itex]

but I do not know how to get there.
 
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What textbook are you using ? The first question is addressed in Weinberg Vol 1, the second in Pierre Ramond's <Field Theory> book.
 
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Weinberg shows how to derive the commutators directly, not how to derive one from the other. I know I should still be able to figure this problem out from what he shows in the book, but I can't seem to make it work.

I don't have access to Ramond.
 
  • #4
1.You can't derive the commutators one from the other.

2. P's are generators of infinitesimal translations. The form is thus the partial derivative.

3. M's are generators for infinitesimal Lorentz transformations. A solution to the commutation relations is

[tex] M^{\mu\nu} = x^{[\mu}P^{\nu]} [/tex]

as one can show by direct computation, using the differential form of P.

P.S. I retract what I said about Ramond. He's too sketchy.
 
  • #5
Write
[tex]
\delta x^{\mu}=(1/2)\omega^{\rho \sigma}\left(\eta_{\nu\sigma}\delta^{\mu}_{\rho}-\eta_{\nu\rho}\delta^{\mu}_{\sigma}\right)x^{\nu}
[/tex]

then use
[tex]\delta^{\mu}_{\rho}=\partial_{\rho}x^{\mu}[/tex]

to rewrite the above as

[tex]
\delta x^{\mu}= \frac{i}{2} \omega^{\rho \sigma}L_{\rho \sigma}\delta^{\mu}_{\nu} x^{\nu}
[/tex]
 

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What is the Lie algebra of the Poincare group?

The Lie algebra of the Poincare group is a mathematical structure that describes the infinitesimal generators of the Poincare group, which is a group of symmetries in special relativity. It consists of the translations, rotations, and boosts in Minkowski spacetime.

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The Lie algebra of the Poincare group is important in theoretical physics because it provides a framework for understanding the symmetries of spacetime. It is used to describe the behavior of particles and fields in special relativity and is a key component in the development of quantum field theory.

How is the Lie algebra of the Poincare group related to the Lorentz group?

The Lorentz group is a subgroup of the Poincare group and its Lie algebra is a subalgebra of the Poincare group's Lie algebra. This means that the infinitesimal generators of the Lorentz group can be obtained from the generators of the Poincare group by setting the translation generators to zero.

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