How to derive the curl of E equation in the frame of the conductor?

In summary, according to wikipedia, "The moving magnet and conductor problem", the equation shown in the attachment states that the curl of the electric field in the frame of the conductor is equal to minus of the dot product of the velocity of the conductor and the del multiplied by the magnetic field.
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According to wikipedia, "The moving magnet and conductor problem", I stopped at the equation shown in the attachment.
It said that the curl of the E` ( electric field in the frame of the conductor) is equal to minus of the dot product of the velocity of the conductor and the del multiplied by the magnetic field.

How to derive this formula?
 

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UltrafastPED said:
The first part is follows from the chain rule: substituting B(x'+vt) for B':

∂B'/∂t = ∂B(x'+vt)/∂t = ∇B(x') ° ∂vt/∂t = ∇B(x') ° v.

But this can also be expressed as (v°∇)B.

But i have 3 concerns:
1) The above equation should equal to ∇B(x') ∂vt/∂t not to the composite ∇B(x') ° ∂vt/∂t
2) How (v°∇)B is driven from ∇B(x') ° v?
3) In wikipedia, it is a dot product (v.∇) B not a composite function (v°∇)B
 
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∂B`(x`)/∂t = ∂B(x`+vt)/∂t

∂B/∂t= (∂B/∂x).(∂x/∂t) given that x=x`+vt

but ∂x/∂t= v

so ∂B/∂t= (∂B/∂x). v
 
  • #5
Yeah, a dot not a composition. Couldn't find the dot in the menu. Gotta learn LaTex someday I keep saying to myself!
 
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UltrafastPED said:
Yeah, a dot not a composition. Couldn't find the dot in the menu. Gotta learn LaTex someday I keep saying to myself!

Fine, so again how (v.∇) B is reached? it should be v (∇.B). In other words, the only operator that is acting on B should be ∇ not (v.∇).
 

FAQ: How to derive the curl of E equation in the frame of the conductor?

1. What is the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor?

The curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor is a mathematical expression that represents the rotation or circulation of the electric field around a conductor. It is given by the cross product of the electric field and the unit vector normal to the surface of the conductor.

2. How is the curl of the electric field equation derived in the frame of the conductor?

The curl of the electric field equation can be derived by applying the Maxwell-Faraday law, which states that the curl of the electric field is equal to the negative of the time rate of change of the magnetic flux through a surface. This is then combined with the equation for electric flux density to obtain the final expression.

3. Why is it important to derive the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor?

Deriving the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor is important because it allows us to understand the behavior of the electric field near a conductor. It also helps in the analysis and design of electrical circuits and devices, as well as in the study of electromagnetic phenomena.

4. What are the assumptions made when deriving the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor?

The main assumptions made when deriving the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor include: the conductor is a perfect electrical conductor, the electric field is time-independent, and there are no external magnetic fields present.

5. Can the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor be applied to all types of conductors?

No, the curl of the electric field equation in the frame of the conductor can only be applied to perfect electrical conductors. This is because perfect conductors have no electric resistance and therefore do not allow any electric field to penetrate through their surface, resulting in a unique relationship between the electric field and the surface normal vector.

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