How to Derive the Oscillation Equation for a Conical Float?

In summary, the conversation discusses deriving an equation for the oscillation of a conical float with a density of delta 2, floating on water with density 1. The final solution is d^2y/dt^2=-g+(g((L-y)/L)^3)/p, where y(t) is the height of the float, L is the length of the float, g is gravity, and p is the ratio of the two densities. The conversation also addresses finding the submerged volume and weight of water displaced, using delta1 instead of delta2, and clarifying the orientation of the cone.
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yoyo
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I am trying to derive an equation for the oscillation of a conical float. There is a conical float with a density of delta 2 and its floating on water with density 1. Find the oscillation of the floating conical float. The final solution should be:
d^2y/dt^2=-g+(g((L-y)/L)^3)/p

where y(t) is the height of the conical float over the water, L is the length of the conical float,g is gravity and p is the ratio of the two density delta1/delta2

what i did was i found the submerge volume: (1/3)r^2(L-y)

then the weight of water displaced by the float is:
(1/3)r^2(L-y)*delta2*g

mass of float m=(1/3)r^2(L)*delta2

using this in Newton's second law i got:
d^2y/dt^2=-g+g*p((L-y)/L) where p=delta1/delta2

i am not getting the solution that my professor gave?...can somebody explain where the cubed part came from?
 
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  • #2
yoyo said:
I am trying to derive an equation for the oscillation of a conical float. There is a conical float with a density of delta 2 and its floating on water with density 1. Find the oscillation of the floating conical float. The final solution should be:
d^2y/dt^2=-g+(g((L-y)/L)^3)/p

where y(t) is the height of the conical float over the water, L is the length of the conical float,g is gravity and p is the ratio of the two density delta1/delta2

what i did was i found the submerge volume: (1/3)r^2(L-y)

then the weight of water displaced by the float is:
(1/3)r^2(L-y)*delta2*g

use delta1 instead of delta2.

mass of float m=(1/3)r^2(L)*delta2

You can not use the same r for both parts. If R is the radius of the base of the whole conus and r is the same for the submerged part, r/R=(L-y)/L

ehild
 
  • #3
You would need at least to show that

[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dt^2} = ky[/tex]

Also I believe you have to clarify whether the cone is upside down, or with the base down.
 

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