How to differentiate an equation

In summary: C = m/V with respect to time or something. The speaker is confused about how to do this in physics, as opposed to in math. They give an example of differentiating y = x^2 in math and ask for clarification on the process in physics. The response is that it depends on whether m and V are constant or if they vary with time. The expert summarizer concludes that to differentiate with respect to time, the quotient rule can be used.
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Homework Statement


Hi Everyone,

This seems like a very simple question but I' a bit confused.

In maths if I wanted to differentiate y = x^2 then it would just be 2x but I'm not sure about what you would do in physics. If you had the equation C = m/V (Concentration = mass/volume) how can you differenicate that with respect to time or something?

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The Attempt at a Solution


Surely what ever type of differentiation you did (normal, partial etc.) all the parts would just end up being 0 so the differential is zero.

Can someone please set me straight.

Thanks,
 
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GBA13 said:
In maths if I wanted to differentiate y = x^2 then it would just be 2x
If you calculate the derivative with respect to x.
GBA13 said:
If you had the equation C = m/V (Concentration = mass/volume) how can you differenicate that with respect to time or something?
Do m or V depend on time?
If yes (how?), you have to take this into account. Simple example: m=c*t with some constant t leads to a non-zero time derivative.
If no, they are just constants.
 
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GBA13 said:

Homework Statement


Hi Everyone,

This seems like a very simple question but I' a bit confused.

In maths if I wanted to differentiate y = x^2 then it would just be 2x but I'm not sure about what you would do in physics. If you had the equation C = m/V (Concentration = mass/volume) how can you differenicate that with respect to time or something?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Surely what ever type of differentiation you did (normal, partial etc.) all the parts would just end up being 0 so the differential is zero.

Can someone please set me straight.

Thanks,
Your example:
C = mV-1
dC = ∂C/∂m dm + ∂C/∂V dV
so dC/dt = ∂C/∂m dm/dt + ∂C/∂V dV/dt.
But ∂C/∂m = 1/V and ∂C/∂V = -m/V2
So if you know how m and V vary with time you can compute dC/dt.
 
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You differentiate it using the quotient rule:

[tex]\frac{dC}{dt}=\frac{V\frac{dm}{dt}-m\frac{dV}{dt}}{V^2}=\frac{\frac{dm}{dt}-C\frac{dV}{dt}}{V}[/tex]

Chet
 
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I can provide a response to your question about differentiating equations in physics. Differentiating an equation is a mathematical process that involves finding the rate of change of a variable with respect to another variable. In the case of your example, differentiating the equation C = m/V with respect to time would involve finding the rate of change of concentration with respect to time, which is also known as the concentration gradient.

To differentiate an equation, you can use the rules of differentiation, such as the power rule or the quotient rule. In the case of C = m/V, you would use the quotient rule because it involves dividing two variables. The result would be the rate of change of concentration with respect to time, which is also known as the concentration gradient.

Differentiating an equation in physics is important because it allows us to understand how one variable affects another variable in a given system. In your example, finding the concentration gradient would tell us how the concentration of a substance changes over time as the mass and volume of the system change.

I hope this helps to clarify the process of differentiating equations in physics. If you have any further questions, please let me know.
 

FAQ: How to differentiate an equation

What is the definition of differentiation?

Differentiation is a mathematical process used to find the rate of change of a function with respect to its independent variable. It is also known as finding the derivative of a function.

How do you differentiate an equation?

To differentiate an equation, you need to follow the rules of differentiation, such as the power rule, product rule, quotient rule, and chain rule. First, identify the independent variable and then apply the appropriate rule to find the derivative of the function.

Why is differentiation important?

Differentiation is important because it helps us understand the behavior of a function, such as its rate of change, maximum and minimum points, and concavity. It is also used in many areas of science, including physics, economics, and engineering.

What are the applications of differentiation?

Differentiation has many applications, such as finding the velocity and acceleration of an object in physics, maximizing profits in economics, and optimizing designs in engineering. It is also used in calculus to solve optimization and related rate problems.

Can you differentiate any type of equation?

Yes, you can differentiate any type of equation as long as it is a continuous function. This means that the function is defined for all values of the independent variable and does not have any breaks or jumps in its graph.

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