How to figure the voltage drop at different points along a circuit?

In summary, to figure the voltage drop at different points along a circuit, you can use Ohm's Law (V = I × R) by calculating the current (I) flowing through the circuit and the resistance (R) of the components. Measure the voltage at the starting point and subtract the voltage at the desired point to find the voltage drop. For complex circuits, apply Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, which states that the sum of the voltage drops in a closed loop equals the sum of the voltage rises. Additionally, using a multimeter can provide direct measurements of voltage at various points.
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alan2023 said:
Looking at this original question from an electrical install perspective, my challange to someone would be how to build a spreadsheet to plug in the distances and any other necessary values (voltage, wire size/resistance, amps, etc.).
An estimate of the voltage drop can be made by assuming equal loads, distributed equally along the cable.

The number of loads is, n = 13.
The current drawn by each load is, i = 0.35 A.
The length of the cable is, d = 580 ft.
The resistance per unit length is, r = 1.6 milliohm/ft.

The average current is, i * n / 2.
The return resistance per unit length is, 2 * r.
The twos will cancel.

V drop = n * i * d * r = 4.2224 volt.
V far end = 120.0000 - 4.2224 = 115.7776 V.
 
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alan2023 said:
Looking at this original question from an electrical install perspective, my challenge to someone would be how to build a spreadsheet to plug in the distances and any other necessary values (voltage, wire size/resistance, amps, etc.). As an electrician, I use custom calculators usually in a spreadsheet to determine voltage drop, conduit fill, cable tray fill. I first understand the code/math requirements, then build the sheet/formulas.
Here's how you could setup a spreadsheet using 7 columns, A,B,C,D,E,F,G. This setup assumes
a constant load current of .35 A per load.

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Think of the length of wiring between loads as constituting a "zone". There are 13 zones also counting the distance from the 120V feed to the first load as a zone.

Column A is the distance of each load from the 120 volt feed.
Column B is the distance between loads, including the distance from the feed to the first load.
Column C is just a reverse integer sequence starting with the number of loads.
Column D is .35 times column C (element by element). These are the currents in each zone.
Column E is .0032 (2 * the resistance per foot of the wire used; the approximate value used here is
the one given by Berkeman. For other than 12 ga, use 2 * the value for that wire) times column D.
This is the voltage drop per foot of wire in a zone.
Column F is column B times column E (element by element). At this point the elements of column F are the voltage drops within each zone; they are the decrease in voltage from one load to the next.

Column G is the voltage at each load. Creating column G requires the use of a procedure. Start with 120V and subtract the first element of column F; this becomes the first element of column G. Now subtract the second element of column F from the just calculated first element of column G and this will be the second element of column G. Then subtract the third element of column F from the second element of column G and this will be the third element of column G. Continue this to the end.
 
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The Electrician said:
Here's how you could setup a spreadsheet using 7 columns, A,B,C,D,E,F,G. This setup assumes
a constant load current of .35 A per load.

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Think of the length of wiring between loads as constituting a "zone". There are 13 zones also counting the distance from the 120V feed to the first load as a zone.

Column A is the distance of each load from the 120 volt feed.
Column B is the distance between loads, including the distance from the feed to the first load.
Column C is just a reverse integer sequence starting with the number of loads.
Column D is .35 times column C (element by element). These are the currents in each zone.
Column E is .0032 (2 * the resistance per foot of the wire used; the approximate value used here is
the one given by Berkeman. For other than 12 ga, use 2 * the value for that wire) times column D.
This is the voltage drop per foot of wire in a zone.
Column F is column B times column E (element by element). At this point the elements of column F are the voltage drops within each zone; they are the decrease in voltage from one load to the next.

Column G is the voltage at each load. Creating column G requires the use of a procedure. Start with 120V and subtract the first element of column F; this becomes the first element of column G. Now subtract the second element of column F from the just calculated first element of column G and this will be the second element of column G. Then subtract the third element of column F from the second element of column G and this will be the third element of column G. Continue this to the end.
What application is that in the snip?
 
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It's just a math app that I used to format the data in columns, but I didn't do the calculations with it; I did the actual calculations on my HP50g calculator. I don't have Excel on my computer so I couldn't actually give an example of the calculations done in Excel, but I wanted to show what it probably would look like in Excel.
 
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