How to Find the Potential from a Surface Charge Density?

In summary: After doing the substitution, the integral becomes: \Phi = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon0} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{\sigma(x,y)}{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} dx dy.This looks a little nicer, but it's still a bit cumbersome to work with. As for finding potentials, I'm not sure what you would need - a function that gives the potential at every point, or an equation of state for the potential at different points?In summary, the potential is everywhere in space due to the surface charge density
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Homework Statement



The z=0 plane has a surface charge density [tex] \sigma(x,y) = \sigma0 \cos{(ax+by)} [/tex]. Find the potential everywhere in space.

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Ok, so I tried to just integrate directly:

[tex] \Phi = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon0} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{\sigma(x,y)}{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} dx dy [/tex]

but this proves to be formidable by hand (it's a sample exam problem, so nothing but brain power can be used to integrate). My guess is this isn't the best approach to take. Can I try just using separation of variables? How do I do this knowing sigma, and not V, on the plane?
 
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Hi quasar_4! :smile:

have you tried simplifying the maths by changing variables, to X = (ax+by/√(a2+b2), Y = (bx-ay/√(a2+b2)) ?
 
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You integral is not quite right. Your observation point has coordinates which are not the same variables as the source location used as the dummy differential variables.
 
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Hm, ok, let me take a step back.

So if I understand physically, the surface charge density should induce an electric field. If the surface charge density were uniform, the field would be all in the z-direction by symmetry. I'm having a hard time picturing in my mind what's happening with the surface charge density not being uniform... seems that I can't easily just do symmetry argument here.

Here's what I *was* thinking: If I want to find the potential at some point P above the z=0 plane, I can use the vector v pointing from the origin to P (I figured if the plane's infinite, I can put the origin wherever I want) and with magnitude sqrt(x^2+y^2+z^2). Then I should be able to integrate the thing above, though I guess I should have written all the x and ys as primed variables and integrated over primed variables only. How is the integral wrong? I don't quite see it...

tiny-tim (hi!), you're right, I shouldn't have given up without trying a substitution - I just assumed automatically that it looked more complicated than it should :P
 
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First, it's always a good idea to check if there are any symmetries in the problem that can simplify the integration. In this case, since the surface charge density is a cosine function, we can use the fact that cosine is an even function to simplify the integral. This means that we can rewrite the integral as:

\Phi = \frac{2}{4 \pi \epsilon0} \int_{0}^{\infty} \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\sigma(x,y)}{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} dx dy

Next, we can use the substitution u = x^2 + y^2 to simplify the integral further. This will result in a double integral in terms of u and z.

\Phi = \frac{2}{4 \pi \epsilon0} \int_{0}^{\infty} \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\sigma(u)}{u + z^2} \frac{du}{\sqrt{u}} dz

Now, we can use separation of variables by writing \sigma(u) as \sigma(u) = \sigma0 \cos{(a \sqrt{u})} and using the fact that \cos{(a \sqrt{u})} can be expanded as a series of Bessel functions. This will result in a series of integrals that can be evaluated using standard techniques.

Alternatively, if you are allowed to use a computer or calculator, you can use numerical integration methods to solve the integral. This will give you a more accurate solution without the need for hand calculations.
 

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