How to Solve Complex Integrals in Lagrangian Mechanics?

In summary, the conversation revolves around solving a Lagrangian integral with a constant k close to 1. The integral is a typical elliptic integral and can only be solved approximately. The person suggests trying Taylor expansions, but it only makes the equation more complex. Eventually, the integral is plotted in excel and the person plans to use Simpson's rule to solve for the area. The final integral seems more manageable, but it is still only solvable by approximate methods.
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Trying to solve a Lagrangian, got down this integral. Unfortunately the zeroth-solution isn't good enough since the constant k is close to 1 for our experimental set-up.

[tex]


\int_{0}^{x}dx(\frac{xsin(x)}{1+kcos^2(x)}})^\frac{1}{2}

[/tex] Any hints? I'm not sure where to get started.
 
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It's a typical elliptic integral. It can be solved only approximately.
 
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Thanks. I'll have a go at the taylor expansions later.
 
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Had an attempt at the Taylor series and it looked like it was just going to make it more complex. I've plotted it in excel and get a nice semi-ellipse then I'll just use simpsons rule to solve for the area.
 
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[tex] \int_{0}^{x}\frac{xsin(x)dx}{1-kcos^2(x)}}

[/tex]

Looks a little more friendly. Is this still only solvable by approximate methods?
 

FAQ: How to Solve Complex Integrals in Lagrangian Mechanics?

What is an "Integral from Lagrangian"?

An integral from Lagrangian is a mathematical technique used in the field of physics to calculate the energy or action of a physical system. It involves integrating the Lagrangian function, which describes the dynamics of the system, over a certain range of time or space.

How is the Lagrangian function related to the integral from Lagrangian?

The Lagrangian function is the integrand in the integral from Lagrangian. It contains the kinetic and potential energies of the system and helps to determine the equations of motion for the system. The integral from Lagrangian allows for the calculation of the total energy or action of the system.

Why is the integral from Lagrangian important in physics?

The integral from Lagrangian is a powerful tool in physics because it allows for the calculation of the energy or action of a system without having to solve complex differential equations. It also provides a more complete understanding of the dynamics of a system and can be applied to a wide range of physical phenomena.

What are some real-world applications of the integral from Lagrangian?

The integral from Lagrangian is used in many areas of physics, including mechanics, electromagnetism, and quantum mechanics. It has applications in understanding the motion of celestial bodies, the behavior of particles in particle accelerators, and the behavior of electrical circuits, among others.

Are there any limitations to using the integral from Lagrangian?

While the integral from Lagrangian is a powerful tool, it is not suitable for all physical systems. It is most useful for systems with a small number of degrees of freedom and does not work well for systems with strong interactions or non-linear behavior. In these cases, other mathematical techniques may be more appropriate.

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