I cannot normalise this: F= Cexp(-r/a)

In summary, the equation F = Cexp(-r/a) represents a mathematical relationship where F is a function that decreases exponentially with distance r, characterized by a constant C and a parameter a that influences the rate of decay. The author expresses a strong sentiment against normalizing this equation, likely due to its implications or the context in which it is used.
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I cannot normalise this, in fact, I cannot normalise any integral in QM at all unless it is a 1D infinite square well (and struggle even then)
I need to normalise F= Cexp(-r/a)
To do this, I squared the integrand to get C^2exp(-2r/a).
Then I integrated with infinite limits (from 0 to infinity) and equated to 1. The answer to the integral (confirmed by symbolab) is -a/2exp(-2r/a). When I set the limits I get sqrt(2/a). The book says the answer should be (pi*a^3)^1/2. I do not understand what I am doing wrong- I checked everything.
 
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At this level, it's going to be difficult for you without Latex. Also, you need to show us what you are doing. I guess you are doing a 3D integral in spherical coordinates.
 
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In addition, when you post what you do in LaTeX, please be clear what is equal to what. "I get..." can mean several different things. Be explicit.
 
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Do you have a specific textbook exercise on mind here? If so you will get better and more helpful answers by posting in the homework forums and using the homework template that appears when you start a thread there.
 
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Isn’t it 3D with
[tex]r^2 =x^2+y^2+z^2[/tex]?
 
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Use ##dv=4 \pi r^2 \, dr ##. If your calculus is good enough that you can do inegration by parts a couple times, it should get you there. I get the answer for ## C ## is the inverse of the book's answer that you gave.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Isn’t it
Quite possibly. But isn't it the OP's responsibility to post a clear question and not ours to figure out what they must have meant? And isn't it the OP's responsibility to look in on his thread and answer clarifying questions rather than to leave us to guess?
 
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Constat C has physical dimension of L^(-d/2) where d is space dimension. The "right" answer suggests d=3. But Sherlock Holmes seems not be welcomed here.
 
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Sherlock Holmes should not be required. A question that requires detective work is not a good question, and the OP should clarify. Also, our detective work is not always perfect and we run the substantial risk of being told "No, that's not what I meant at all". The forum has plenty of examples.
 
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jqmhelios said:
I cannot normalise any integral in QM at all unless it is a 1D infinite square well (and struggle even then)
Your problem is not QM. Your problem is calculus, which you should learn before trying to learn QM.

As others told you, in this case you need to know that ##r## is a radial coordinate in 3-dimensional space, so you should not integrate just over ##dr##. You should integrate over ##4\pi r^2 dr##. If you have no idea why, you should spend some time with learning calculus first.
 
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The OP has not been back since @PeroK’s comment (#2). I am guessing that was sufficient.
 

FAQ: I cannot normalise this: F= Cexp(-r/a)

What does the equation F = Cexp(-r/a) represent?

The equation F = Cexp(-r/a) represents a mathematical model where F is a function that decays exponentially with respect to the variable r. Here, C is a constant, exp denotes the exponential function, and a is a parameter that controls the rate of decay.

How do I determine the constants C and a in the equation?

The constants C and a are typically determined through experimental data or fitting the model to observed phenomena. C represents the initial value of the function when r is zero, and a represents the characteristic length scale over which the function decays. These constants can be found using methods such as curve fitting or regression analysis.

Why can't I normalize the function F = Cexp(-r/a)?

Normalization typically involves adjusting the function so that its integral over a specified domain equals one. The function F = Cexp(-r/a) might not be normalizable over an infinite domain if the integral of the function diverges. For example, if the integral of F from 0 to infinity does not converge to a finite value, normalization is not possible.

What is the physical significance of the parameter a in the equation?

The parameter a in the equation F = Cexp(-r/a) is often referred to as the decay constant or characteristic length. It determines how quickly the function decreases as r increases. In physical contexts, a might represent a distance over which a certain property (like force, concentration, or probability) decreases to a fraction of its initial value.

Can the equation F = Cexp(-r/a) be used to model real-world phenomena?

Yes, the equation F = Cexp(-r/a) can be used to model a variety of real-world phenomena that exhibit exponential decay. Examples include radioactive decay, attenuation of light in a medium, and the decrease of electric field strength with distance in certain configurations. The specific application depends on the context and the parameters involved.

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