If you had ANY faith left in the goodwill of governments

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In summary: I don't know, dude. Why did Danish police raid Christiania? Why did they brutally assault a bunch of people? Why does Bush endorse those racist "Minutemen"...
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I try to avoid socialism like the plague, there's too much misinformation around it. More than anarchism. It's people who end up associating me with socialism that turn it into that thread. (because of their stupid dualist philosophy they think it's the opposite of capitalism and so think if I don't like capitalism I must be a socialist too - never mind that I just said I wasn't)
 
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  • #37
loseyourname said:
Oh wait, I forgot that TRCSF is the same guy that accused me, who practically grew up on Santa Monica Blvd., whose three best male friends are all gay, who has marched for gay rights in West Hollywood, San Diego, Long Beach, San Francisco, and New York, who has frickin' witnessed a gay threesome without batting an eyelid, of being homophobic. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with here.

Some people would rather just demonize those who disagree with them than engage in legitimate discussion.
You mean as you have just done?? :biggrin:
 
  • #38
Smurf said:
I try to avoid socialism like the plague, there's too much misinformation around it. More than anarchism. It's people who end up associating me with socialism that turn it into that thread. (because of their stupid dualist philosophy they think it's the opposite of capitalism and so think if I don't like capitalism I must be a socialist too - never mind that I just said I wasn't)
Smurf I'd say that as you are 18 you are going through the usual 'I want to be an individual' phase of your life. You looked around, found anarchism and then better yet green anarchism to really set you apart from your peers and so provided yourself with your personal stamp of individuality.
The icing on the cake being most folk haven't even a clue what green anarchism is (possibly for very good reasons :biggrin: )

I'm willing to bet within a few years at most you will have moved on and will then follow a mainstream ideolgy. :smile:
 
  • #39
Art said:
Smurf I'd say that as you are 18 you are going through the usual 'I want to be an individual' phase of your life. You looked around, found anarchism and then better yet green anarchism to really set you apart from your peers and so provided yourself with your personal stamp of individuality.
The icing on the cake being most folk haven't even a clue what green anarchism is (possibly for very good reasons :biggrin: )

I'm willing to bet within a few years at most you will have moved on and will then follow a mainstream ideolgy. :smile:
you narrow-minded *******. Anarchism IS a mainstream ideology. But you'd never know it because you only hang around fascist capitalists. And the "green" thing is my mother's influence, she's such a tree-hugger.

(btw I went through the 'individualist' stage when I was 16 - Right now it's "I want to save the world" but quickly becoming "These people don't deserve to be saved - kill them all!". By 25 I should have reached complete and total apathy.)

P.S. I hate "individualists" - it's just another stupid "I wanna" trend in my view.
 
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  • #40
Smurf said:
(btw I went through the 'individualist' stage when I was 16 - Right now it's "I want to save the world" but quickly becoming "These people don't deserve to be saved - kill them all!".
See it's happening; you're practically a neocon already :smile:
 
  • #41
Smurf said:
(btw I went through the 'individualist' stage when I was 16 - Right now it's "I want to save the world" but quickly becoming "These people don't deserve to be saved - kill them all!". By 25 I should have reached complete and total apathy.)

I think the stage at 25 is called the "Wait a second, I'm as bad as everyone i criticize, i'll shut up now" stage
 
  • #42
Pengwuino said:
I think the stage at 25 is called the "Wait a second, I'm as bad as everyone i criticize, i'll shut up now" stage
Or I'm now earning as much as the people I used to denigrate so I'll just quietly slip away and come back under a new user name lol.
 
  • #43
Art said:
See it's happening; you're practically a neocon already :smile:
ooh a funny man.
 
  • #44
Smurf said:
.. Why does Bush endorse those racist "Minutemen" groups on the mexican border? ...
BECAUSE THEY'RE CORPORATE GOONS!

I'm sorry but that is officially the dumbest thing you've ever said.

Corporations are inherently anti-competitive, and anti-free market, because a true free market does not favor corporations. In a true free market labour is a commodity, just like everything else. Corporations like illegal immigration because it depresses wages. There is nothing racist about the minutemen groups on the border (though I'm sure some individuals there may well be racist). Its about enforcing the laws the government refuses to enforce that would benefit american citizens. The purpose of government is to protect its own citizens. By refusing to do anything about illegal immigration, other than off amnesty, bush is helping the corporations, yes. If he were to crack down on illegal immigration, and actually enforce the laws of this country (like he's supposed to) he would be pissing off the corporations. It makes no sense to say he endorses the Minutemen (if he does, its lipservice only, and news to me) because he is a corporate goon (which he is).
 
  • #45
franznietzsche said:
I'm sorry but that is officially the dumbest thing you've ever said.
That comment is excusable. You've been away :smile:

It makes no sense to say he endorses the Minutemen (if he does, its lipservice only, and news to me) because he is a corporate goon (which he is).
Yeah oh well. I never claimed to be an expert it on them - was part of a rant, geeze people lighten up.
 
  • #46
Smurf smells bad!

beat that rant buddy.
 
  • #47
I slept with your wife.
 
  • #48
Smurf said:
I slept with your wife.

I don't have a wife. That means you're a virgin. Pathetic.
 
  • #49
Pengwuino said:
I don't have a wife. That means you're a virgin. Pathetic.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1284769.html
 
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  • #50
This... means... war... *calls George W. Bush*
 
  • #51
Don't be such a sour loser :-p
 
  • #52
Smurf said:
Don't be such a sour loser :-p

Say goodbye to Canada buddy!
 
  • #53
Smurf said:
I don't. I read the link. I'm not a paranoid partisan freak like kat who won't click on any links because she's afraid of "raising their hit number" unless it conforms to her list of 3 or 4 networks that won't challenge her narrow perception of reality in any conceivable manner. I read the news story.
Proving once again that vacuous and youth are not oxymoronic. :wink:

On topic...
Anyone who had read this might have suspected future clashes between police and armed forces in Basra

Basra blogger is abducted and murdered
There is speculation that Mr Vincent, who received death threats, was murdered in an attempt to silence him. Four days before his death he had written an opinion piece in The New York Times in which he said that the police force in the British-controlled city had been infiltrated by Shia Muslim extremist militias, who were responsible for carrying out hundreds of murders of prominent Sunni Muslims
 
  • #54
So THIS is the "kat" they speak of...
 
  • #55
You See! You see! That redish avatar! That hyperbolic attitude!

PURE EVIL I TELL YOU! PURE EVIL!
 
  • #56
I... I can't! *extremities become numb*... its taking over! help me!
 
  • #57
It'd probably really make you freak if you knew my real name which "Kat" is a just a nickname for...
 
  • #58
Satan?
 
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  • #59
Pengwuino said:
Satin?
And lace too... :smile:
 
  • #60
TheStatutoryApe said:
And lace too... :smile:

What are you talking about.
 
  • #61
Smurf said:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1284769.html

Oh my god that is pure gold.

"Gay groups had earlier protested against "the organised and forced harassment through female seductresses"

ROFL
 
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  • #62
TRCSF said:
I don't remember that. What did you say that was homophobic?

Was it about gay marriage?

I said that I don't think states should sanction marriages at all - that the government has no right to license people to love one another and commit to each other. You called that an even more cowardly brand of homophobia. Frankly, I find your brand of insulting people to dismiss them rather than engaging the issue rather cowardly.
 
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  • #63
Art said:
You mean as you have just done?? :biggrin:

Not at all. I did both.
 
  • #64
Smurf said:
You See! You see! That redish avatar! That hyperbolic attitude!

PURE EVIL I TELL YOU! PURE EVIL!

I like the upside down screaming girl avatar.
 
  • #65
loseyourname said:
I said that I don't think states should sanction marriages at all - that the government has no right to license people to love one another and commit to each other. You called that an even more cowardly brand of homophobia. Frankly, I find your brand of insulting people to dismiss them rather than engaging the issue rather cowardly.

And did you believe this before the gay marriage issue became a hot topic?
 
  • #66
TRCSF said:
And did you believe this before the gay marriage issue became a hot topic?

Did you ever come back to the thread? Of course I did, and I already said so! I also said that, as long as the state does sanction marriage, I think they should allow any two consenting adults to marry, regardless of anything. You just don't seem to really want to know these things. You'd rather make assumptions. I'm sorry if I'm reacting a little strongly to this, but I've been very active in the homosexual community for the last eight years or so and your comment angered me.
 
  • #67
I guess you'll never come back to this thread, either. Don't become another Rev Prez.
 

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