Implicit differentiation difficult

In summary, the problem involves finding y'' in terms of x and y only, where y' is equal to tan(y) over 1 minus x times secant squared of y. After checking their work multiple times, the individual's answer does not match with Wolfram Alpha's solution. They are looking for someone to confirm the first few steps of their work.
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Given that $y'=\frac{tan(y)}{1-xsec^2(y)}$, find y'' in terms of $x$ and $y$ only.

I've done this and checked my work several times but my answer does not agree with wolfram alpha. Sorry for not posting my work, I am a bit busy at the moment. Can someone show the first couple of lines of work to see if it agrees with mine?

Thanks
 
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Fermat said:
Given that $y'=\frac{tan(y)}{1-xsec^2(y)}$, find y'' in terms of $x$ and $y$ only.

I've done this and checked my work several times but my answer does not agree with wolfram alpha. Sorry for not posting my work, I am a bit busy at the moment. Can someone show the first couple of lines of work to see if it agrees with mine?

Thanks
It's straight-forward Calculus, lots of good chain rule exercise, but somewhat appalling in the Algebra.

\(\displaystyle y'' = \frac{sec^2(y) y' (1 - x~sec^2(y)) - tan(y) (-sec^2(y) - x(2) sec(y) sec(y)~tan(y) y')}{(1 - x~sec^2(y))^2}\)

Plug in your value for y' and simplify.

-Dan
 
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FAQ: Implicit differentiation difficult

What is implicit differentiation and why is it difficult?

Implicit differentiation is a mathematical technique used to find the derivative of a function that is not explicitly expressed in terms of a single variable. It is difficult because it requires extra steps and can involve complex algebraic manipulations.

How is implicit differentiation different from explicit differentiation?

Explicit differentiation is used to find the derivative of a function that is expressed in terms of a single variable, while implicit differentiation is used for functions that are not explicitly expressed in terms of a single variable.

What are some common mistakes made when using implicit differentiation?

Some common mistakes include forgetting to use the chain rule, incorrectly simplifying complex expressions, and making errors when differentiating trigonometric functions.

When is implicit differentiation most commonly used in scientific research?

Implicit differentiation is commonly used in fields such as physics, engineering, and economics to find the rate of change of a variable in a relationship that is not explicitly stated.

How can I improve my skills in using implicit differentiation?

Practice and familiarize yourself with the rules and techniques of implicit differentiation. Also, make sure to double check your work and use tools like WolframAlpha to verify your answers.

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