Impulse and perfectly inelastic collision between 2 points

In summary, an impulse is the change in momentum resulting from a force applied over a short time, while a perfectly inelastic collision is a type of collision where two objects stick together after impact, moving as a single entity. During such a collision, momentum is conserved, but kinetic energy is not. The analysis of these concepts involves understanding how forces act during the collision and how they affect the velocities of the involved bodies before and after the event.
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Homework Statement
A body, of mass ## m_A = 2kg##, is initially at rest on the ground. ##A## is then subjected to a vertical instantaneous impulse of magnitude ##J = 10 Ns##. When ##A## has a velocity of ##v_A = 5m/s##, the body is struck in a perfectly inelastic collision by the body B. Knowing that ##m_B=0.2Kg## and that ##B## has a constant horizontal velocity, ##v_B= 5m/s##, determine:
1) ##h##
2) The energy lost in the collision
3) ##\theta##
4) The maximum height of ##A+B## after the collision
Relevant Equations
##\Delta P = I##
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The main thing about this problem is to find the components of the velocity, ##v_{A+B}##. To do that you have to use the conservation of linear momentum of the collision. In this case, since there is an impulse, I should have ##\Delta P = J##. But the impulse is given prior to the collision. Does this mean that ##\Delta P = 0## in the collision? That's the thing I don't understand.

After I figure that out, I know how to finish the problem:
1)I Already can determine ##h## by writing an energy balance from when ##A## is on the ground to the moment right before the collision with ##B##;
2) Energy lost = ##|\Delta E_{kinetic}|## ;
3) Once I have the components of ##v_{A+B}##, I can determine ##\theta## with trigonometry;
4) Max height, ## h_{max}= \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}##.
 
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Thermofox said:
Homework Statement: A body, of mass ## m_A = 2kg##, is initially at rest on the ground. ##A## is then subjected to a vertical instantaneous impulse of magnitude ##J = 10 Ns##. When ##A## has a velocity of ##v_A = 5m/s##, the body is struck in a perfectly inelastic collision by the body B. Knowing that ##m_B=0.2Kg## and that ##B## has a constant horizontal velocity, ##v_B= 5m/s##, determine:
1) ##h##
2) The energy lost in the collision
3) ##\theta##
4) The maximum height of ##A+B## after the collision
Relevant Equations: ##\Delta P = I##

View attachment 347751The main thing about this problem is to find the components of the velocity, ##v_{A+B}##. To do that you have to use the conservation of linear momentum of the collision. In this case, since there is an impulse, I should have ##\Delta P = J##. But the impulse is given prior to the collision. Does this mean that ##\Delta P = 0## in the collision? That's the thing I don't understand.

After I figure that out, I know how to finish the problem:
1)I Already can determine ##h## by writing an energy balance from when ##A## is on the ground to the moment right before the collision with ##B##;
2) Energy lost = ##|\Delta E_{kinetic}|## ;
3) Once I have the components of ##v_{A+B}##, I can determine ##\theta## with trigonometry;
4) Max height, ## h_{max}= \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}##.
The impulse ##J## they are talking about is applied only to mass ##m_A## (before the collision).

So yeah, if you are saying gravity (impulse) is negligibly small over the very short collision duration (##A## impacting ##B##) then for the collision ##\Delta P = 0 ##.
 
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The impulse ##J## they are talking about is applied only to mass ##m_A## (before the collision).

So yeah, if you are saying gravity is negligibly small over the very short collision duration (##A## impacting ##B##) then for the collision ##\Delta P = 0 ##.
Ok thanks for the clarification.
 
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Thermofox said:
Ok thanks for the clarification.
Also, don't forget that you are starting at ##h##, when finding ##h_{max}##.
 
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erobz said:
Also, don't forget that you are starting at ##h##, when finding ##h_{max}##.
Right, ##h_{max}= \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}## is valid only when ##h_{\text{initial}}=0##.
##\Rightarrow h_{max}= h_{\text{initial}} + \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g} ##
 
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